Atriel wrote:Regarding Shirou's allies. Yes, you see that's called being smart. You can't do it alone, get together with someone that can't either. Even if only for a while. And that's precisely what happened, the only exception being Ilya & Rin. And their reasons are pretty clear.
Everything you say is completely accurate, the ways that Shirou makes friends is well explained and makes great sense in the context of the story. However, all of that takes away from potential drama and epicness. Was nobody else hoping for a showdown where Shirou is forced to kill Rin?
About the Rin picture, wow you guys are nitpicky. I used that picture because I didn't want to use an actual spoiler picture. I considered Rin's past tragic enough being Sakura's sister and all. What does it matter anyway? The picture was an accurate enough representation of the general situation. And you seem to think that a tragic backstory is a bad thing. Why? I was saying it as a compliment.
Indeed, it is a new direction. Very different from the first two. But contradictory? Why? It states the truth behind the Holy Grail War. It is a contradiction only to what it was originally thought that the Holy Grail War was. Nothing more.
It didn't fit in the review to specifically say this, but the contradiction is in the characters. Why did Shirou abandon his Superhero dream? Why does Archer not want to kill Shirou anymore?
Atriel wrote:So? You do remember who she is, and her reasons (in this case, lack of) to be in the war? The greedy ones are her ancestors, not her. She only did as she was told and actually ended up having a bond with Berserker.
That's absolutely right. But you're reinforcing my point that she wasn't greedy. I was trying to make a point on how unpassionate the contestants were and how easily they are sidetracked by things like friendship, and that's exactly the point you brought up.
Now that I've started watching the anime, it seems like his review is based on the anime and not the novel, but to avoid looking like a jackarse, he skimmed a few pages of the VN, took a few pictures, and reviewed it. I can see how the anime makes it look Mediocre, but that's just cause you miss the best parts.
Hi, that's totally untrue. I said a lot of good things about FSN's good parts, I quote, "But when those moments kick into high gear, it can be hard even for the coolest detractor to stay unaffected.", and "And that is, in Fate/Stay Night the effectiveness of every scene is high. The action scenes are visceral, the sex scenes are erotic, and the romances are, for the most part, true."
I don't know what you got out of the review. But I played and I liked FSN very much. But I can step back and say, while this game was fun, it wasn't great. Because good parts doesn't necessarily mean a great game. All games have good parts, it is only when the good parts are better than other games' good parts can we begin to say this game is above average.
People from 1,000 years ago are not the same as the ones today.
Shirou wasn't exactly relaxing when fighting.
Neither was anyone that knew of their own weaknesses.
Like I said, there are some scenes that are really good. The Archer vs Shirou battle was one example. But there are many many other fights opponents face off as if they're dismissive of the engagement in general. For example Lancer, yes I know he had good reason, but his lack of enthusiasm waters down the emotional impact of the battle. Same cheese with the first battle between Rider and Saber, Saber and Assassin, Gilly vs anyone, Archer vs Caster. You're right that their attitudes make sense in the context of the story as it was presented, but it does not make for compelling drama nor does it make for characters we can easily identify with. Put another way, those fights lack the vicarious emotion we were expecting, and run opposite to my understanding of human nature.
Now about the sex, you know, I may simply have low standards on that. I didn't read those scenes carefully, but what I saw of the images on fast forward I found titillating enough. They might not be able to reach the standards that you set, but Saber/etc was certainly sexy enough for me.
wyldfire wrote:dude, i can't simply believe it...abt illya and everything else has been said by others...but kotomine!!!u compare him to schneizel!!!i can't even find a word...in HF kotomine was greatly explained...that how his logic is completely opposite of normal humans...how he tries to find his purpose of existance and i shouldn't even have to say all this to someone who has read HF...i'd admit kotomine isn't explained until HF...but if u read HF and u still found no excellence in kototmine then i gotta say that u didn't understand anything at all ( and excuse me for personal attacks )...
It is indeed HF Kotomine that has the most similarities to Schneizel, while in Fate and UBW he has more of typical villain vibes, in HF he has the same sort of disgusting apathy to everything, or as you put it, logic completely opposite of normal humans, just like Schneizel.
FSN is NOT TH...if u want a story like TH then why don't u go read it again...FSN has its own charms...every single little detail was explained and there was more than excellent character development...contrary to u, i WILL say FSN has a superb storyline and the plot was even more gracefully executed...
Hi, if you don't like my review I encourage you to write your own. Your review will take precedence if more people recommend yours.