Walachia's Dead Apostle Power.... [Spoiler]

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Unread postby Chetyre » May 15th, 2007, 12:19 pm

from what I understood about vampires, they just get their super-human abilities because they have many many centuries to learn. so the strongest dead apostles simple became so good at controlling magic that they all learned their own reality marble
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Unread postby Impractic_Shiki » May 15th, 2007, 1:53 pm

Topic has a spoiler tag for a reason


Yeah, I used "additionally spoilish" thought because that fact wasn't from Melty Blood.

In other routes, Shiki is saved by Arc molding a piece of 'chaos' into his flesh to heal him.


However, Arc also stated that it lost its power, and it'd just fuse with Shiki's body. Unless you're going for Shiki becoming Chaos, I dunno about that for a resurrection.

I wonder, do they get these abilities included in the vampire package or are they sold separately? Do they have name labels or are they just invented names?


It seems the church and other vampires name them.

from what I understood about vampires, they just get their super-human abilities because they have many many centuries to learn. so the strongest dead apostles simple became so good at controlling magic that they all learned their own reality marble


That's basically it. They continue their research for immortality generally and thus learn other skills.
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Unread postby Qaenyin Angelblade » May 15th, 2007, 11:27 pm

It depends on the vampire. Some have innate powers(Zelretch's Kaleidoscope sorcery for example is something he had as a human as an innate ability, since he was a sorcerer), some have learned abilities like Nero's Lair of the King Beast reality marble, and some have powers based on their nature(SHIKI for example has his blood control powers, whatever those happen to be called).


As for Nero, like I said, "Fabro Rowan" was dot-killed. Nero Chaos, the vampire/creature, the amalgamation of life forms and powers, was not. So Nero Chaos could still appear, but he would likely look and act completely different, because Fabro Rowan's personality would no longer be influencing his actions.
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Unread postby Dectilon » May 16th, 2007, 3:36 pm

tbqh, I never really got the "phantasms" and "marbles". Is there some very precise explanation somewhere? Phantasm means illusion if I'm not mistaken, and that doesn't sound too bad ^^ And marble is either a kind of rock or something that is trivial. Could be the sphere game too but... Neither sound right : /
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Unread postby Chetyre » May 17th, 2007, 1:02 am

Reality Marbles are pretty much you making your own "marble" world inside the real world where you write reality to your liking

noble phantasms are weapons that servants use, famous conceptual weapons such as excalibur or gae bolg
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Unread postby Dectilon » May 20th, 2007, 10:46 pm

Oh I see... Thanks for clearing that up.

But... Didn't Arturia say something about Kojirou's swallow's tail technique being on par with a noble phantasm without being one, or something like that ~~

Would be strange if his Clothes Pole isn't a legendary weapon : /
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Unread postby Chetyre » May 20th, 2007, 11:30 pm

she said Kojirou's attack reached the level of a noble phanstasm with pure skill without having any special weapon. it just means he is THAT skilled
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Unread postby Dectilon » May 21st, 2007, 9:15 am

Is the Clothes Pole not a noble phantasm because it doesn't have any legendary capabilities then?
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Unread postby hugoauthen » September 5th, 2007, 8:46 pm

what do you mean with "clothes pole"?

I think the weapon's and abilities of the servant is based on the legends of that servant.

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wallachia's power was based on the intensity and overall fear of the "rumored" killer or something.
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