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Successor??? [spoilers?]

Posted: December 29th, 2008, 9:01 am
by NanatsuYa
So I thought, after getting through all the routes in MB, and all characters' side-stories in ReACT...
So I was wondering, who is the 'legitimate' successor to Wallachia as a dead apostle?
I mean... He's dead... right?
From what I can recall, in most cases, when the DAA dies, one of the vampires it made takes it's place... or something <.<

On one side, we have Sion. Not only was she bitten by him some years ago, she's actually related to him by blood. When she goes vampire (Sion TATARI), she get's most of Wallachia's powers, like fighting with illusions as familliars and whatnot...

But on the other side, we have White Len, also known as the Tsundere... She was created with the remains of Wallachia by Aoko, and was supposed to be a familliar... Although she doesn't have the same personality as Wallachia, she does in fact have all the powers Wallachia possessed, as well as sharing some similar powers with Len.

So who do you think would be most suitable as a successor? A broken alchemist that shares the same blood as him, or White Len, who got all his powers?

Posted: December 29th, 2008, 9:27 am
by abscess
None. Wallachia can't die (as in never coming back). It's been stated who knows how many times in Story Mode that he just dissappears for hundreds of years and then comes back. It's said again in Sion's ending in MB:AC that she can move on to other things since he won't be back during her life-time. So... there can't be a succesor for his place.

At any rate, if he happened to be dead (which is not the case), I'd go for the broken alchemist. She's much more of a vampire than W. Len. W. Len is only a familiar after all, it doesn't matter how strong she is, she is still bound to her master's life (a human, i.e., Aoko). Besides, Sion can grow stronger with the time, W. Len IIRC, although a powered up version of the black cat, she is at her max.

Posted: December 29th, 2008, 9:39 am
by spathi
what? I though he died when arc nullified his powers and shiki killed him

Posted: December 29th, 2008, 9:55 am
by NanatsuYa
spathi wrote:what? I though he died when arc nullified his powers and shiki killed him
That's what I thought too, since Arc
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Posted: December 29th, 2008, 2:02 pm
by Kid-Wolf
NanatsuYa wrote:
spathi wrote:what? I though he died when arc nullified his powers and shiki killed him
That's what I thought too, since Arc
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That would make sense
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Posted: December 29th, 2008, 10:42 pm
by Gumaster
NanatsuYa wrote: That's what I thought too, since Arc
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Could it just be that she makes it possible since warachia is a phenomenon that only appears under certain conditions? It's not like he can just randomly show up and say hello to the main cast.
And i swear I read somewhere that shiki only killed off the current incarnation of walachia and that he will still reappear...but it was a long time ago so i can't be sure. Although, would shiki be able to comprehend the death of a phenomena (even if it was materialized?)

Posted: December 29th, 2008, 11:55 pm
by Mazyrian
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Posted: December 30th, 2008, 1:00 am
by abscess
Mazyrian wrote:
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Hmmm....!
Now you've made me doubt myself... To the MB:ReAct!!..... but first I gotta finish a mission in Fallout 3 :P

Posted: December 30th, 2008, 1:00 pm
by holydiver
But...

Fuyuki wiki states that TATARI will hit Australia in the 2020!!

Here's the link http://web.archive.org/web/200705171942 ... m/Timeline

Posted: December 30th, 2008, 1:27 pm
by AvatarofRage
I'm pretty sure that's when/where Sion said he'd materialize in the other routes, but it becomes a moot point in Route 1 since Arc hit fast-forward, Shiki pulled out the tape, then Aozaki taped over him with her loli-dere show.

Posted: December 30th, 2008, 4:11 pm
by NanatsuYa
[quote="Wikipedia - "Vampires (Kinoko Nasu)""]
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[quote="TYPE-MOON Wiki - "Night of Wallachia""]
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This pretty much says it all :wink:

Posted: December 30th, 2008, 5:12 pm
by holydiver
So...
The one striking Australia in 2020 is White Len???

Posted: December 30th, 2008, 5:19 pm
by Kid-Wolf
holydiver wrote:So...
The one striking Australia in 2020 is White Len???
Well if you look at it that way it could be possilbe. Besides Sion and/or Tohno Shiki might head to Australia for some reason. With that W. Len may follow him since she is kind of attached to him more or less.

As for Sion it's because she is a Half Vampire bitten by TATARI that there is a posiblity for her to cause it as well.

Posted: December 30th, 2008, 5:37 pm
by NanatsuYa
Kid-Wolf wrote:
holydiver wrote:So...
The one striking Australia in 2020 is White Len???
Well if you look at it that way it could be possilbe. Besides Sion and/or Tohno Shiki might head to Australia for some reason. With that W. Len may follow him since she is kind of attached to him more or less.

As for Sion it's because she is a Half Vampire bitten by TATARI that there is a posiblity for her to cause it as well.
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Posted: December 30th, 2008, 5:44 pm
by holydiver
LOL!

TSUNDERE LOLI CONQUERS THE WORLD!!!!!!!!

PS:Prepare yourself for defeat Iskandar!


EDIT: I SHOULD HAVE POSTED THIS BEFORE...DHO.

Posted: December 30th, 2008, 6:04 pm
by Kid-Wolf
NanatsuYa wrote:
Kid-Wolf wrote:
holydiver wrote:So...
The one striking Australia in 2020 is White Len???
Well if you look at it that way it could be possilbe. Besides Sion and/or Tohno Shiki might head to Australia for some reason. With that W. Len may follow him since she is kind of attached to him more or less.

As for Sion it's because she is a Half Vampire bitten by TATARI that there is a posiblity for her to cause it as well.
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Well what did you expect this is Tohno Shiki here. Of course he's able to beat down something like that. So would this make it something like a Arcade/Story Mode kind of deal here. In any case I would love to see a PC release of this since I want it translated of course. Heck I don't care if it's brought over for the PS3 licensed even I just want to play that game so badly now.

Posted: December 30th, 2008, 6:45 pm
by Mazyrian
To correct something I said before, it is in MBAC Arcade in which Wallachia appears.
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holydiver wrote:So...
The one striking Australia in 2020 is White Len???
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Posted: December 31st, 2008, 8:07 am
by abscess
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.......
Wha---?!
Sion becomes some MvC Apocalypse-esque enemy in MB:AA???!!!!
.......They just seem to be playing with the story now... I thought that they would stick with the original plot as they did in MB:AC and not stray that much... Though, looks quite interesting! Anyone can translate the moon-glyphs?

Posted: December 31st, 2008, 9:31 am
by spathi
everybody in tsuki now has a crazy side huh?

Posted: December 31st, 2008, 1:50 pm
by NanatsuYa
abcess wrote:
NanatsuYa wrote:
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.......
Wha---?!
Sion becomes some MvC Apocalypse-esque enemy in MB:AA???!!!!
.......They just seem to be playing with the story now... I thought that they would stick with the original plot as they did in MB:AC and not stray that much... Though, looks quite interesting! Anyone can translate the moon-glyphs?
Well...
I still think they're going with the original storyline (from the "Hologram Summer, NIGHT ON THE BLOOD LIAR"-ending).
I found this on the internet (duh?) and I think it's a pretty relevant explanation:
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It was posted on Beast's lair <.<

And as for the moonspeak... At least I can't -_-