I'll try to keep the names as consistent as possible from here on to avoid misunderstandings. We should discuss briefly namings because they are starting to be a pain. For now, whenever a name that I think may be important (no matter how dumb it sounds) I'll write it like this
Superflonic wrote:Well, if the "internet organism" just suddenly started to exist, that would be a bit too unreal. I think we should have someone create the "net-baby", without adding another party to the bunch. I guess that would make it too messy.
Yeah you are right, the infrastructure should be set up by someone. The idea of it suddenly existing now strikes me a bit like life suddenly appearing, and a smart one no less.... That's dumb.
As for the one who set up the appropriate structure for it to exist, for simplicity we could make the original anon
be the one that did it, but we could just hint that the original anon
isn't the one that did it and it was someone else, who was it? it doesn't really matters. It's one of my ideas to have the background story to be bigger than the actual story the player would see in-game.
Superflonic wrote:True, I only just noticed. I just did it automatically, bit I haven't thought about it before. We should decide lateron, but anon should have some playing time in the story as well so eventually he'll need a face (and gender).
True, but I'm still leaning on the original anon
to be a small group of people working together. Making all the group appear could be a little weird, perhaps one or two of the group, then again the appearance of the whole group couldn't hurt, I guess.
Superflonic wrote:When the network started to behave odd, the group of people started their investigation (or continued? they should already know about anon at this point), and created neo-anon. It (anon) looked and behaved just like a human, albeit a bit shallow (they don't have all information about him, so they couldn't perfectly reproduce him).
I agree the group of people
should know about the original anon
before it disappears, so it would make sense for them to continue their investigation.
Superflonic wrote:A small recap/story edit. The original anon might've been responsible for the "net baby" as we know it. The group of people isn't completely sure about this either, since anon is a complete mistery, but they assumed this.
Hmm... Does this mean that the group of people
already knows about the net-baby
? I agree that they would at least have some idea that there may be something weird lurking on the internet and that the original anon
may have something to do with it, but I still think it would be better if they don't know what the net-baby
really is until later. I still think of it as a subplot that may be either underplayed to the extent of being either just some hints here and there or for it becoming the main plot during the more advanced parts of the game.
Superflonic wrote:You are right. Maybe everyone (not just the group of people) isnâ€™t aware of the intelligence the internet is growing, and do not know about the â€˜organismâ€™ that is forming.
Maybe I shouldn't answer paragraph by paragraph anymore... it leads to misunderstandings some times
Superflonic wrote:Later, the net baby starts to crash, or something. It stops functioning as it should, and causes a world-wide panic. (I mean, when the internet-infrastructure gets shut down, the on the internet relying world gets set back into the stone age.) For some reason, the group of people think this has something to do with anon, but because they have no way of knowing when he will do something, they decide to create an anon of their own, based on the information they have. That anon is then used to repair the internet.
However, anon thinks different, and uses its new body (the android body? Who knows) to execute his remaining plans. That is, to create the virus. I havenâ€™t thought about what happens after, though.
Earlier you mentioned a neo-anon
. That gave me an idea, though it's a bit like MGS, with Solid and Liquid Snake, I think. The neo-anon
could be the prototype the group of people
created based on the original anon
. What if we have neo-anon
based solely on the data collected on the original anon
and nothing else? That is, s/he has no emotion or care about human beings, just an interest in carrying out the mission (whatever it is) following the patterns the original anon
followed. Then something happened to neo-anon
(or maybe it just followed perfectly what was thought the original anon
wanted) and created the virus
. After that, the anon-series
were created as a means to carry out what they (the group of people
) originally wanted and stopping neo-anon
from doing any more funny stuff.
Superflonic wrote:Hmm, I donâ€™t really like the idea of multiple anons. If we were to follow my storyline (I am thinking in my own perspective here, we have a long time to go before making actual definite decisions, lol), a single anon would be enough. Maybe it creates the virus for the purpose of collecting more and more information/knowledge?
And I had it the other way around from the beginning
The idea of multiple anons is something that I find interesting. It's not needed for them all to show up and tell what is it they do, only mentioned that they exist. It's plausible and logical if you think of it this way (obviously, from my point of view):
The anon series
are designed humans and all of them have the original anon
information inside of them, but they are individual humans nonetheless, with feelings, needs and urges. Since the group of people
don't know who the original anon
was, one of the anon series
could be made to be a 30-year-old woman, other a 15-year-old boy, other could be more extroverted while there is another that is more introverted; that way they could aproximate the real original anon
as a person, or at least one of its group members (supposing that the original anon
is a group).
(if we agree on its existence) is nothing else but the embodiment original anon
's information. It lacks emotion and is driven by the duty to the mission and follows it as logically as possible.
Superflonic wrote:It appears so far that anon wants his intellect to grow, so this is plausible.
I actually never thought about the original anon
as being an information hoarder, more like those hackers that infiltrate protected places, take out as much data as possible and then upload it somewhere for people to read.
But the information hoarding could also be interesting. I just thought of this, what if in its later days, before disappearing, he actually started just getting certain data without publishing it? Something like it researching a subject (the net baby
perhaps?) but not telling anyone about it.
What about a resistance to the group of people trying to destroy the "net-baby" (there is always fanatics and resistances)? People who somewhat knows (or think they knows) about the net-baby and starts to worship it. I haven't thought about how they would have an influence on the story but I think that the story needs some sort of creepy cult running around.
Another idea I've been thinking about is Technomancers from Shadowrun (people controlling the internet with their minds). Or if anon would be the first (and only?) technomancer like some kind of messiah which could give the story some religious elements.
Both of these ideas are pretty good. I guess giving the story religious (or moral) elements could also give it even more depth. Maybe the group of people already are some kind of crazy cult, and nobody knows about them.
Moral dilemmas is what I proposed with the transhuman discussion, but I never thought about cultist thinking, not to mention thinking about the group of people
as a net baby
worshipping cult. Actually I thought of them the other way around, as a group of people wanting to get rid of the net baby
. So far the original anon
would be the only group/person that could be labeled as a net baby
As for the techomancers and such, we should also discuss about it. I didn't consider it either, just normal thriller-esque sci-fi.
P.S: [rant]It's bothersome to type in the italics coding everytime I put a name... Still, it's preferable than all-caps... I hate all-caps.[/rant]
P.S-2: It may be a good time to start thinking of naming this version of the internet.