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Unread post by serialies » February 22nd, 2008, 6:39 am

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Unread post by kensain » July 3rd, 2008, 11:54 am

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Can we stop the spoiler tags? Seriously, if someone's reading a discussion on Nasuverse's strongest, they deserve their spoiling...
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Unread post by Cat Megex » July 3rd, 2008, 12:38 pm

kensain wrote:
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Can we stop the spoiler tags? Seriously, if someone's reading a discussion on Nasuverse's strongest, they deserve their spoiling...
...Actually, wouldn't Ryougi Shiki be stronger than Tohno Shiki, because
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Unread post by mooks » July 4th, 2008, 6:02 pm

Cat Megex wrote:
kensain wrote:
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Can we stop the spoiler tags? Seriously, if someone's reading a discussion on Nasuverse's strongest, they deserve their spoiling...
...Actually, wouldn't Ryougi Shiki be stronger than Tohno Shiki, because
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Unread post by Shirosaki » July 4th, 2008, 11:09 pm

mooks wrote:
Cat Megex wrote:
kensain wrote:
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Can we stop the spoiler tags? Seriously, if someone's reading a discussion on Nasuverse's strongest, they deserve their spoiling...
...Actually, wouldn't Ryougi Shiki be stronger than Tohno Shiki, because
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But personally i perfer Ryogi more because who doesn't like a kimono wearing psychopath girl that kills everyone :)
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Unread post by Einherjar » July 4th, 2008, 11:12 pm

Shirosaki wrote:
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Cat Megex wrote: ...Actually, wouldn't Ryougi Shiki be stronger than Tohno Shiki, because
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In a surprise attack, Tohno (Nanaya) Shiki can slice Ryougi into 17 pieces.
That's is, of course, if you don't think Ryougi is stronger than Arc, which can match 3 servents.
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Unread post by mooks » July 5th, 2008, 1:58 pm

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In a surprise attack, Tohno (Nanaya) Shiki can slice Ryougi into 17 pieces.
That's is, of course, if you don't think Ryougi is stronger than Arc, which can match 3 servents.
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Unread post by Shirosaki » July 5th, 2008, 2:47 pm

mooks wrote:
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In a surprise attack, Tohno (Nanaya) Shiki can slice Ryougi into 17 pieces.
That's is, of course, if you don't think Ryougi is stronger than Arc, which can match 3 servents.
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Wrong, Nanaya acts to dangerous situations as well as demons so that point is also null and with Shiki being aware that she can permanently erase him Nanaya takes over and well it's over, if you need more help either understand Tsuki more, go to type-moon wiki or just wallow there disagreeing idk, both are still not strongest :/
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oh and btw if Nanaya is an assassin (come on people read....) the chances of him getting sneaked upon are REALLY low that i'd say it's close to nill and with the superhuman speed even if she did it'd still be over so Ryogi would still be screwed.

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Unread post by Einherjar » July 5th, 2008, 3:51 pm

Well, the doll arm is not a natural thing, so.. That's the first thought I had that might awaken Nanaya's blood. and Nanaya didn't have any danger when he attack Arc. So just imagine Nanaya is activated for no reason what so ever and he attacks Shiki. I'm not saying Nanaya is stronger, but I think he is much more dangerous is they both dont have the eye. Anyways, after some serious thought, wouldn't Zelretch be the best since Zelretch > CrimsonMoon > Arc > pretty much all?
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Unread post by Miraploy » July 5th, 2008, 4:55 pm

I thought Zel cheated? He might not be able to kill CM twice. But he's certainly a strong contender, probably strongest the human(ish) character anyway.

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Unread post by mooks » July 5th, 2008, 10:31 pm

Shirosaki wrote:
mooks wrote:
Einherjar wrote: In a surprise attack, Tohno (Nanaya) Shiki can slice Ryougi into 17 pieces.
That's is, of course, if you don't think Ryougi is stronger than Arc, which can match 3 servents.
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Wrong, Nanaya acts to dangerous situations as well as demons so that point is also null and with Shiki being aware that she can permanently erase him Nanaya takes over and well it's over, if you need more help either understand Tsuki more, go to type-moon wiki or just wallow there disagreeing idk, both are still not strongest :/
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oh and btw if Nanaya is an assassin (come on people read....) the chances of him getting sneaked upon are REALLY low that i'd say it's close to nill and with the superhuman speed even if she did it'd still be over so Ryogi would still be screwed.
i wasnt saying whos the strongest, im just saying whos stronger
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Unread post by Miraploy » July 5th, 2008, 10:39 pm

What Nanaya mode? That's silly, it's not a mode, it's just a collection of memories that surfaces when he needs them to. It's more of a mood than a mode. You guys watch too much transformers or something, it's the same person...

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Unread post by mooks » July 5th, 2008, 11:06 pm

Miraploy wrote:What Nanaya mode? That's silly, it's not a mode, it's just a collection of memories that surfaces when he needs them to. It's more of a mood than a mode. You guys watch too much transformers or something, it's the same person...
i just call it nanaya mode

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Unread post by Miraploy » July 5th, 2008, 11:53 pm

The point is that it's not something that needs to be activated. Shiki always has super speed and agility or whatnot, regardless of what mood he's in. He's not like uh, Yugioh where he needs to transform.

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Unread post by Raitei » July 6th, 2008, 12:06 am

no offence, but I think ryougi shiki > tohno / nanaya shiki. why?
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If it's just a defensive fight, but would still be a fight, then Ciel. Shiki (Rakkyo), Shiki (Tsukihime) are no match for Servants....but Ryougi Shiki (3rd personality) might be able to go as far as the Ciel class.
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Unread post by mooks » July 6th, 2008, 12:11 am

Miraploy wrote:The point is that it's not something that needs to be activated. Shiki always has super speed and agility or whatnot, regardless of what mood he's in. He's not like uh, Yugioh where he needs to transform.
I was saying without Nanaya, Shiki won't be able to keep his Mystic Eyes up for a very long time because it strains his body
I wasn't saying that he didnt have super speed/agility/anything else you were referring to.

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Unread post by Miraploy » July 6th, 2008, 12:27 am

There is no 'with' Nanaya. He IS Nanaya. So even with Nanaya he won't be able to keep up the mystic eyes, if he tries to understand hard stuff his brain's still going to pop.

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Unread post by mooks » July 6th, 2008, 1:26 am

Miraploy wrote:There is no 'with' Nanaya. He IS Nanaya. So even with Nanaya he won't be able to keep up the mystic eyes, if he tries to understand hard stuff his brain's still going to pop.
so i didnt call it Nanaya mode for once and this is what happens

also, what you said only backs up my claim that Ryougi is stronger, so i'm cool with that

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Unread post by Shirosaki » July 6th, 2008, 3:46 am

Also (come on read the wiki people....even to i'm to lazy to find it again..) if i remember correctly (rare) Nanaya doesn't have to have the eyes on when his entire personality takes over, also no Nanaya is superior to Shiki and that's well....common place knowledge (superhuman vs. human...) by now i should guess, also with that magical arm of Ryogi you actually have to catch the person ( as if it was an extension of your arm) and how can you catch what you can't see? (Nanaya personality speed) And as for that quote from Fuyuki you do realize he doesn't say which Shiki (as in term of normal, nanaya, or hybrid as in he has nanaya instincts tohno mind) so we can't really say Ryogi owns him and i swear if someone says "it doesn't matter" may the Nasuverse Shiki pounce on you (inside joke :lol: )

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Now that i'm reading what nasu said i still don't get why shiki can't just pwn the servants with his eye's unless he mean't regular tohno in which case...yeah...

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Unread post by Raitei » July 6th, 2008, 3:58 am

Shirosaki wrote:-EDIT-
Now that i'm reading what nasu said i still don't get why shiki can't just pwn the servants with his eye's unless he mean't regular tohno in which case...yeah...
why shiki cannot kill servants with cokushi no magan.
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