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Canon?

Unread postPosted: November 30th, 2008, 3:47 am
by gexer64
Are any of the works not produced by Nasu considered canon?

Specifically:

Fate zero
The manga and anime of Tsukihime
the KnK films
Melty Blood manga

Stuff like that.

Re: Canon?

Unread postPosted: November 30th, 2008, 3:51 am
by Sepheriel
gexer64 wrote:Are any of the works not produced by Nasu considered canon?

Specifically:

Fate zero
The manga and anime of Tsukihime
the KnK films
Melty Blood manga

Stuff like that.


Yes. I'm pretty sure Fate/Zero is canon and that the KnK films are canon as well since they are based on the novels. Nasu was/is involved, I'm sure, in the production of Fate/Zero and the KnK films. The anime of Tsukihime probably got his go ahead for them to make it but you can tell just by looking at it that it didn't have much, if any, input from him. I've not seen the Tsukihime manga nor the Melty Blood manga so I can't say about those.

Unread postPosted: November 30th, 2008, 3:51 am
by AlinSabel
The first and third are canon... the others... not too sure. I'm sure lots of people would argue that the second 'most certainly is not canon'.
Melty Blood manga bears little resemblance to the game, apart from the characters...

Re: Canon?

Unread postPosted: November 30th, 2008, 4:26 am
by Raitei
Fate zero
100% canon, even though nasu's participation is only 80% or so.
The manga and anime of Tsukihime
there is no tsukihime anime.
the KnK films
canon.
Melty Blood manga
not sure, but it most likely isn't.

Unread postPosted: November 30th, 2008, 4:28 am
by gexer64
What about the Tsukihime manga? That exists.

Unread postPosted: November 30th, 2008, 4:40 am
by NonExistence
the tsukihime manga is canon. even more so compared to the non-existent tsukihime anime. the melty blood manga isn't so canon, but it does have its good points. i'd rate its canonity at about 70%.

Unread postPosted: November 30th, 2008, 4:51 am
by Kid-Wolf
Ok so what's the difference between canon and non-canon again?

Unread postPosted: November 30th, 2008, 5:08 am
by NonExistence
canon means that it's faithful to the intentions of the original producers and can be used as evidence for/against arguments. non-canon is the opposite. so obviously things that the original producers participated in are canon; doujinshi are not.

Unread postPosted: November 30th, 2008, 5:19 am
by Raitei

Unread postPosted: December 10th, 2008, 3:02 pm
by feuhrer
tecnically... type moon universe have many dimensions so...
evrything can be happening in a different dimension and that would make everything not canon..
correct me if i am wrong i am not sure :S

Unread postPosted: December 10th, 2008, 10:47 pm
by Undream
feuhrer wrote:tecnically... type moon universe have many dimensions so...
evrything can be happening in a different dimension and that would make everything not canon..
correct me if i am wrong i am not sure :S


Perhaps, but you can think of the routes shown in the games or the books as the 'events that had the best probability of happening'
So all other events are so improbable they are not canon