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Unread postby -[J1N]- » September 30th, 2007, 4:54 am

I just had what was Australia's largest anime convention yesterday. It's very small, but I was amazed at what i could buy this year. The merchandise was actually CHEAP.

Well anyways, a question came across my head after the event that day, "What are anime conventions like in other countries"? So i thought this would be a nice place to ask. Yes, i know some of you guys don't have anime conventions, seeing how there aren't even any shops, but for those that do (and don't, you can still post your opinions) what is it like?

I'll start, of course. There are now three anime conventions this year, one starting this year called SMASH!. SMASH! is targeted towards the events, and was supposed to be 'fun'. However, the geography of the whole building makes it hard to see what there is to offer, and so i found it rahter boring. Another convention is called Supanova, which also has other animation such as Marvel, etc. Supanova's specialty (to me) are it's merchandise. It has more vendors, and is generally cheaper than other vendors (SMASH! has very little to offer). The last, and largest one is called Animania. Animania has had a streak of getting crappier by the year. However, this year was a little different. As i said above, the merchandise was very cheap, compared with other stores, and even online. I regretably didn't bring enough money with me then, but there's always the internet to get what i'm missing :twisted: .

The events were generally ok for Animania, but could still be greatly improved on.

Our next event is going to be Supanova, which I'm planning to get my cosplay uniform ready by then =).
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Unread postby Raitei » October 1st, 2007, 5:14 am

hyaa! so...(what, I cannot find any words to express my feelings; interesting?wonderful?marvelous? no, they aren't adequate enough...)

I hope(and I really mean it!200%!) there'll be some events like this in indonesia... :cry:

btw, who/which character are you going to use as a model for your cosplay?
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Unread postby -[J1N]- » October 1st, 2007, 9:29 am

Hehe, well I'll show you when Supanova is on, which i hope I'll be able to get my cosplay ready by. I haven't seen anyone cosplay as him yet, so it's gonna be interesting ^ ^
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Unread postby miszou » October 1st, 2007, 10:14 am

In Holland we now have two big anime conventions (one of which my foundation is organizing) and a few small ones.

Typical we have, anime, j-drama, asian movies, a lot of different events, workshops, competions (the cosplay competitions are usually really well watched), games, karaoke, multiplayer ddr, lectures, manga (library) and of course a dealerroom :3 We try to squeeze in more and more events each year, so people don;t get bored :3

I think the dealerroom in Holland is important, as we don't have that many shops in the country, and for a lot of people it is the only time they can buy some stuff (even though they could also order it :P). We usually have some foreign dealers as well, so I think it is a nice time to have so many goodies at once, although I wish we got some more VN's too sell :P (I gotta find a dealer of those somewhere close xD).
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Unread postby Message » October 1st, 2007, 9:15 pm

Though I live in Enschede I've never been to Abunai myself (animecon in Enschede, Holland), the reason being that so far every Dutch "otaku", safe one, has been incredibly disappointing company for me. They're all braindead consumers! All they do is watch anime, hours in a row. I felt like a professor amongst dishwashers, completely unable to talk about anything of my interest with anyone. I tried to talk about our "mutual" hobby with dozens of people, but outside of what was available in stores, people had no idea of anything. So far only one guy even knew what a visual novel was, and all he'd ever played was the lousy porn games that were translated back in the 90s. Basically they all had no idea what they were talking about. Mutual hobby my ass, I bet they'd all watch Pokemon when given the chance.

My conclusion: The Netherlands suck when it comes to Japanese popfandom. Sucky anime cons with uninteresting would-be otakus, thus no interesting guests or concerts, thus no actual fans, thus no guests, thus no fans, etc.

Of course, this is just my personal experience. The lack of intelligent conversation, or even any conversation at all, with the local 'fanbase' has left me spending a few days every now and then with sebasdoes instead, who comes over all the way from Amsterdam. For all I know the western half of the country could be filled with more intelligent fans of Japanese popculture. But down here, it's a boring mess.
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Unread postby Raitei » October 2nd, 2007, 6:29 am

i remembered just now; there's some events like this in Indonesia, about 3 years ago..
too bad i didn't visit it... :cry:
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Unread postby miszou » October 2nd, 2007, 9:29 am

Message wrote:Though I live in Enschede I've never been to Abunai myself (animecon in Enschede, Holland), the reason being that so far every Dutch "otaku", safe one, has been incredibly disappointing company for me. They're all braindead consumers! All they do is watch anime, hours in a row. I felt like a professor amongst dishwashers, completely unable to talk about anything of my interest with anyone. I tried to talk about our "mutual" hobby with dozens of people, but outside of what was available in stores, people had no idea of anything. So far only one guy even knew what a visual novel was, and all he'd ever played was the lousy porn games that were translated back in the 90s. Basically they all had no idea what they were talking about. Mutual hobby my ass, I bet they'd all watch Pokemon when given the chance.

My conclusion: The Netherlands suck when it comes to Japanese popfandom. Sucky anime cons with uninteresting would-be otakus, thus no interesting guests or concerts, thus no actual fans, thus no guests, thus no fans, etc.

Of course, this is just my personal experience. The lack of intelligent conversation, or even any conversation at all, with the local 'fanbase' has left me spending a few days every now and then with sebasdoes instead, who comes over all the way from Amsterdam. For all I know the western half of the country could be filled with more intelligent fans of Japanese popculture. But down here, it's a boring mess.


hmm yeah, I think you was the one telling me once I shouldn't just tells hit about people I don't know about? I do know exactly what you mean by this though, but I also know you are just referring to some groups excluding a lot of other people. I've met with a lot of different fans here in Holland and with many many different hobbies. Some maybe are mindless zombies who (as you feel) may watch to much anime, others not. I know enough people playing VN's in Holland (not counting my self ;) ). And about J-pop concerts ... have you never noticed you can go to them in Holland? There are a dozen a year or some ...

Maybe you should get out more and be less judged about people :P I give you the fact that some fans here are maybe too much focussed on anime, but there a lot of people with other interests in Japan :3

And honestly I doubt you know the local fanbase, who who are you to tell shit about them? Abunai tries to get different kind of Japanese events to here, the convention is long but focussed on anime, in fact, the anime is more a filler to the rest then vice versa. Abunai is also looking at organizing other Japanese related event instead of focusing around anime.

Maybe try to talking with people a little bit older then 12 then you might get an intelligent conversation :P sorry if I seem a little bit rude to a mod, but he is certainly not giving a good example.
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Unread postby Message » October 2nd, 2007, 8:04 pm

Haha, older than 12, funny.
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Unread postby miszou » October 3rd, 2007, 1:04 am

haha trash talking funny :(
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Unread postby -[J1N]- » October 3rd, 2007, 8:27 am

Calm down guys @_@.

Well, I didn't like Animania very much after the first year I went, but I kept going every year. I didn't expect much this year, but I was wrong. I found much more things to do then the year before, and like i said lots of times already, the things were actually cheap. What I'm trying to get to is that you should visit those conventions again and give it another shot. It can't be the same zombies every single year ^ ^
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Unread postby Message » October 5th, 2007, 3:37 pm

miszou wrote:haha trash talking funny :(

To clear this up, let me add some comments to my post.

Though I live in Enschede I've never been to Abunai myself (animecon in Enschede, Holland), the reason being that so far every Dutch "otaku", safe one, has been incredibly disappointing company for me.

Note how I am not trashing Abunai. I've never even been there.

They're all braindead consumers! All they do is watch anime, hours in a row. I felt like a professor amongst dishwashers, completely unable to talk about anything of my interest with anyone. I tried to talk about our "mutual" hobby with dozens of people, but outside of what was available in stores, people had no idea of anything. So far only one guy even knew what a visual novel was, and all he'd ever played was the lousy porn games that were translated back in the 90s. Basically they all had no idea what they were talking about. Mutual hobby my ass, I bet they'd all watch Pokemon when given the chance.

This is all entirely true. They had no idea what they were talking about. Note that I am still talking about "every Dutch otaky safe one" I've so far met.

My conclusion: The Netherlands suck when it comes to Japanese popfandom. Sucky anime cons with uninteresting would-be otakus, thus no interesting guests or concerts, thus no actual fans, thus no guests, thus no fans, etc.

Agreed, saying "sucky anime cons" is a bit of a short-cut here. I meant to say "These cons I've been to were sucky", but my main point was about those anime fans themselves. If that is the average anime-con public, I would say "uninteresting people, thus no interesting guests, etc".

Of course, this is just my personal experience. The lack of intelligent conversation, or even any conversation at all, with the local 'fanbase' has left me spending a few days every now and then with sebasdoes instead, who comes over all the way from Amsterdam. For all I know the western half of the country could be filled with more intelligent fans of Japanese popculture. But down here, it's a boring mess.

This would be the disclaimer you may have overlooked - this is all just personal experience. My experience is that here in the East, it's a boring mess. That would include Abunai, if they didn't get guests from all over the country. So once again I'm not trashtalking Abunai.

My apologies is I sounded offending, no offence was intended.
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Unread postby -[J1N]- » October 14th, 2007, 12:25 pm

Well, Supanova's now over (Yes, it was on OCTOBER), and even though I couldn't go, I did get my brother to get things for me =D. Also, since the convention was a month earlier than I thought, my cosplay wasn't ready yet =(. From the time during Animania and Supanova, I managed to get my TYPE-MOON collection large enough for it to be 'displayable'.

I took a pic of it >>> http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h118/ ... C00124.jpg (Warning: 2mbs for all who care about size)

The wall poster there is supposed to be a picture of the saber u see on the bottom 2nd-left, I can't get it up properly just yet >.>

Here's the list of things I got during the convention ^ ^:

The Arcueid and Hisui model on the bottom left, Akiha, Ciel and Sion and the bottom right, the Ilya (Iilya?)model above the Rin, Fate Fantasia Box 2 (the bottom left, both the black ones, the poster on the wall and the Saber alternate model in the front) and the Kohaku and the Caster and Sakura models at the front as well.

All in a few hundred dollar budget xD
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Unread postby Henduluin » October 14th, 2007, 1:13 pm

Damn yous. Give me your Tsukihime goodies, they're impossible to get over here ;_;
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