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Posted: January 17th, 2008, 9:12 pm
by Einherjar
please you guys, you're going a bit off-topic there -_-
this belongs to another thread.

Posted: January 17th, 2008, 11:31 pm
by Brizzle
Einherjar wrote:please you guys, you're going a bit off-topic there -_-
this belongs to another thread.
I'll agree here. I know I was part of the argument, but it's gone on far enough. This debate won't be settled until Nasu himself speaks up on it, so it's moot to argue about it. The last thing we need is another power-level thread. :roll:

Anyway, this whole thread is bound to be unbalanced until F/SN is completed, giving people a chance to know Shirou as well as they know Shiki. Only then can a fair judgement be made.

Posted: January 18th, 2008, 9:12 am
by serialies
eh...ok i wont go off topic again (after this post >_>), but there ARE some points ill briefly dispute

1. @ heroic spirits worship: i think they were using the term broadly...not in the literal sense that you would pray to a heroic spirit for good crops and such, of course if a hero died and people payed their respects and a shrine momumented to him/her i guess that falls under worship...but the worship i had in mind is more like that of having faith in ones god.

2. @ demigods: i dont see why the father loosing power effects the child loosing power, they are seperate entities (seperate legends...seperate believers...ect)

3. Arc was created by gaia, hence her source of power is gaia (and the moon)...i think thats pretty self explanatory, just like how EMIYA doesnt need fame, alternate power source.

4. im pretty sure gods are not recorded in the throne of heros o_o...unless of course, at one point they were a hero (like herc)

5. by legends are more "fresh" i think you mean to say the hero's image is stronger for humanity...which is what ive been saying

6. erm just because a god -> normal elemental doesnt make them dead...it'd be more like using heroic spirits that are forgotten...which is what we are doing

kk no more off topic (there ARE more points i wanna cover but...)

Posted: January 21st, 2008, 4:52 pm
by zeldaevolution
Mattaku...
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Posted: January 21st, 2008, 6:02 pm
by Kansho
zeldaevolution wrote:Mattaku...
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Read the whole game.
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Posted: January 21st, 2008, 6:22 pm
by Keeper of Gil's Vault
Good point Kansho. Shirou will win, but O.... at what cost? :cry:

Posted: January 22nd, 2008, 3:06 am
by Brizzle
I'm pretty sure that Nasu himself has said that at their full power, Shiki and Shirou are about even, so we may as well flip a coin.

Anyway, this thread is about who you like more, not who you think will win in a fight.

Posted: January 23rd, 2008, 12:53 pm
by zeldaevolution
Hmm... wait...
What kind of Shiki, Tohno or Nanaya?
If it's Tohno then I'm for Shirou,,,
if Nanaya, then I'm for Nanaya, haha!!

Posted: January 24th, 2008, 12:19 am
by Brizzle
I'm pretty sure it's Tohno. Besides, Nanaya (I mean the TATARI and the vision of Nanaya seen in Kagetsu Tohya, not 'Nanaya Mode') doesn't have the Mystic Eyes, only much more training and a lot more ruthlessness.

Posted: January 24th, 2008, 3:02 am
by Throiath
mir wrote:They're both irritating and should be replaced with white-haired lolis. Where's my 3rd option XD
This. How is this thread still alive? It ended on the first page. :P

But anyway, I like Shirou more than Shiki.

Posted: January 24th, 2008, 3:54 am
by pchunter
like more?? none.. they're both incredibly naive and stupid in critical times. ha.... who i hate more? SHIROU!
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. But of course thats my opinion.

Posted: January 24th, 2008, 8:02 am
by GrimAngel
....At last.... finished the 13 Pages.... man cant read anymore....
But well at last I learn some good stuff.

Personaly I like both characters. I would like a 3d option. to chosse both.

Cause I liked a lot Shirou development as a main character, the time he spend looking and traing to find a reason to fight, fighting with his ideals, the reasons why he entered the Grail War, how he trained his ass until dead every night and every morning to became a better magus, even when everyone said he couldnt became a good one.

Shiki most of all, apart from that "cool assasin stuff" I love the way he is at the end and great part of the game, even knowing this "power" means his destruction(exagerating a little) he accepted it as part of his life, and go on with a smile. Also in the prologe that is avaible after clearing all endings, that new event when He meet with Aoko... I Loved it T.T.
EDIT: Also this why I hate the anime adaptation of Tsukihime, Shiki was so fuc*** selft depresing I wanted to kill him myself xD

Thats why I honestly like both characters. And if they have to fight I honestly hope that both end with a draw xD And everyone ends happy =p.

PD: Kansho, sorry to ask, but could you tell me where can I get the English translation of Notes?

Posted: April 4th, 2008, 1:51 pm
by Enerccio
Kansho wrote:
zeldaevolution wrote:Mattaku...
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Read the whole game.
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isn't that only with memories of Heracles and archers hand?

Posted: April 4th, 2008, 9:23 pm
by Undream
Shikis for the win
Unless HF perfoms a KICKASS (and maybe not even then) shiki will be my favorite main character.
He has better powers, more interesting personality and hotter chicks..ok that was supposed to go first...
but really, Shiki scenes were pretty more interesting than shirou ones

Posted: April 5th, 2008, 9:34 am
by TheOverlord
Shirou FTW. I liked Shiki and his personality up until it came the H scenes where he became sadistic, however what really made me hate the cunt was his treatment of my poor Hisui-chan in her first H-scene(f****r made her cry :evil: ). After that i stop trying to play properly and just tried to get all the bad ends so i could see the b*****d suffer.

Posted: April 5th, 2008, 5:09 pm
by Anon of /jp/
Shiki! no contest here...

Maybe this will change after HF Route.

Posted: April 5th, 2008, 5:20 pm
by ayadew
Beowulf Lee wrote:Let's look at this from a literary critical perspective...
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I must agree.

Posted: April 5th, 2008, 8:20 pm
by DarkEyes
Beowulf Lee wrote:Let's look at this from a literary critical perspective...
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Sad but true xDDD

Posted: April 5th, 2008, 10:20 pm
by nobaka
I actually like Shirou more, similar to Kansho's explanation.

However, Arcueid is just too much win.

Posted: April 6th, 2008, 5:34 am
by chansey
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Shiki wins.