Avenger

[SolarAdept]

Anyone knows his stats?

[Kid-Wolf]

Truth be told I don't think his stats were every officially released. Although, if they were

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I think they would of been the same as they work in the 3rd HF War if you ask me.

[SolarAdept]

"the same as they work"? Wtf is that supposed to mean? And how DID they work in HF3?

[Kid-Wolf]

I meant were when I typed that.

Besides

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I don't think his stats changed overly much from when he was summoned in the 3rd HF War. From the looks of things in F/HA he happens to be the contents that spilled out at that time, so that would mean his stats were the same before he was added int the grail.

[SolarAdept]

I'll say it so you will understand: Are there anywhere the stats that Avenger had during ANY of his appearances in the world, whether it is HA, HF3 or the end of the world as the Martians know it?

[Keeper of Gil's Vault]

Not that I am aware of. Someone posted a set before, but apparently it was fake...
However, rest assured, Avenger is very useless.

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The illusion of him being powerful was the result of Avenger's interaction with the Grail. Avenger is the materialization of the wish for carnage, death, and destruction, i.e. "all the world's evil", and the Grail is the wish granting machine. Combine, mix well, and pour... ta-da!

[Dark_Habit]

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The average rating of his overall status would be around C- or C at best.
Noble phantasm: and here we go with Avenger's noble phantasms...............
- Sword Breaker (a defensive/offensive skill that allows him to lock his enemy's weapon and to attack in the meanwhile)
- Verg Avesta - False Copy of Inscribed Creation (sort of curse that implies the dealing of a certain damage on the body of the caster and that can reflect the same on the target's body and soul)

Rate these yourself.

[SolarAdept]

I doubt that Avenger has such high stats as C. D at best, seeing how Bazett is stronger physically. NPs are probably around D/C rank.

[Kid-Wolf]

Well Avenger didn't have any Noble Phantasms that he called his own.

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I mean Void Avesta is the power he actually borrows from the Grail to deal the same ammount of dammage that was dealt to him, as long as he doesn't die. Not only that, but I think that is also the same power that caused the 4 day loop of the 3rd HF War.

Although pretty much since he was stated to be either a useless Servant, or something that should of never have been summoned at all kind of states that his Rankings would be around D or E Rank for what he has to offer.

[zweiterversuch]

Avenger is only cool.

I mean, look this one:

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The very embodyment of coolness.

[Dark_Habit]

Well, I don't think he is cool, he just inherited Shirou's coolness.

[zweiterversuch]

Well, I don't think he is cool, he just inherited Shirou's coolness.

...I think avenger is cool.
Shirou is...Shirou...

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The guy who would sacrifice himself 20 times one after the other out of self-satisfaction, who in the end will just regret it and try to commit suicide.

Avenger on the contrary

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hates everybody and tries to kill everybody at first but later just resigns and does his job. Being the reason of evil.

[ayami123]

i think your right avenger himself is also cool i wish that Nasu also create a anime about the third grail war and the story about avenger ))

[Keeper of Gil's Vault]

i think your right avenger himself is also cool i wish that Nasu also create a anime about the third grail war and the story about avenger ))

You would be very, very disappointed, as

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in the 3rd war, Avenger got disposed of on the fourth day. This shamed the Einzberns immensely, and is essentially the trigger for them to seek out more powerful masters and servants in the subsequent wars.

[ayami123]

oh i see X hah i forgot about that hahah )) well its still about the 3rd war so it would still be interesting hah ))

[SolarAdept]

Also, Nasu can't createan anime out of thin air.

[ayami123]

well that goes for everybody but the 3rd grail wars has source you know so it won't be out of thin air haha Y_Y wish nasu didn't finished the grail war. cause i want a sequel so there will be a 6th grail war hahah )) it should be about avenger

[Oolinthu]

I don't know, maybe it's just how annoying he is to fight in Crucis Fatal Fake, but I can't stand Avenger. The less I see of him the better, IMO.