metal_cocoabo wrote:Projection-wise, I assume Archer's and Fate Shiro's Caliburns are about the same. Since he basically downloads all the skills necessary to use it, Archer should be able to pull off the same stunt one rank lower... so I guess, six lives? This one is mostly speculation anyway, but maybe the Saber factor has something to do with it. Well, at least I get why they say Saber's the strongest Servant, she gets 'Block-Anything' Avalon, 'Beam-Spam' Excalibur and 'Kill-Anything-SEVEN times' Caliburn (at least with Shiro's help.)
fuyuki wiki wrote:Creation of Excalibur is possible, but not a perfect version of it. It's also likely that using its energy blast would result in him using up all of his Prana, hence it would be a suicide attack for him, which is why he never traces it even just as a normal weapon; his personally developed close-combat technique with his twin swords is better suited for him and Shirou (although raw power might be less).
He can, actually. There's no mentioning about Caliburn being usable only by a king, in contrast to popular belief. In game manual only said that its difference with Excalibur is that it trades power with fancy designs.nanaya_shinya wrote:metal_cocoabo wrote: Archer should have a copy of Caliburn somewhere in UBW since he was Saber's master as preGAR-Shiro. Why didn't he just use it if it was that powerful!
Because he is just an owner.
He won't be able to do the 1 stab = 7 lives like he did with Saber.
Well, it's the only theory that I could think of.
Wrong. It fails because his image was crumbling.Soulshade wrote:i just think that archer didnt use caliburn himself is cause he cant use it at all cause caliburn only reacts to the king of britain. even though archer can 'download' the skill needed to use caliburn, caliburn itself prolly has 'norton' to block off archer's hax. remember when shirou tried to use it himself but fails, so saber had to help out in order for caliburn to work.
Emiya Shirou wrote:"But this is it. I'm tossed away. As soon as my consciousness returns, the sword must have left everything in my hands. I am easily thrown away by the attacks I was easily blocking until now. 'Ha-ah'. The senses in my arm are already gone. My wrist is about to tip off as I can see the red meat.
'--Kuh...!' My legs won't move. All my muscles must have stopped working."
Yet another common misconception. 3Headron wrote:To explain beserker being killed 13 times. It was not overkill. Berserkers Noble Phantasm was his Stock of twelve lives. what no one realizes is that this stock is added on top of his base 1 life. so with Archer killing him 5 times, (once before UBW than 4 within UBW, as Ilya states he killed berserker 5 time total) then Rin with her magic stones, and finally the Caliburn stab for his final 7 lives (6 stock, one base).
TM WIKI wrote:God Hand
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Title: Twelve labors
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Maximum number of targets: 1 person
God Hand is the blessing (curse?) of the gods that grants immortality. It is Berserker's main Noble Phantasm.
By turning the body into a robust armor, any attack not exceeding rank B is totally negated. In fighting game terms, you could say it is a super armor that takes no damage from any attack other than a super combo. God Hand can even learn about a move that has succeeded once and grow a resistance to it.
In addition, it grants automatic resurrection, up to 11 resurrections - meaning Berserker needs to be killed 12 times to be eliminated.
Apparently, God Hand also might be what gave Berserker his lead-colored skin and transformed his elbows.
FUYUKIWIKI wrote:God Hand - The Twelve Trials
The normal ability is canceling any damage of B or below. Noble Phantasm ability is an extra 11 lives (yes 11 lives, not 12, meaning he has to be killed a total of twelve times). It's effectively an armor coating the body. The reason why Berserker looks grey is because of the God Hand. A blessing or rather a curse the gods gave to Hercules (hence, it isn't the materialized interpretation of his trials, it's an actual gift bestowed by the gods). Ever since Hercules gained this, no one has been able to do any damage to him. Confirmed that God Hand will actually develop resistance to damage taken once. The game hints that the lives actually regenerate. Seriously. Also see Conceptual Armament entry on God Hand.
Max AOE: 1 unit
Kenzu wrote:As for the 7 Times Kill. I see it that Shirou wasn't able to fully use the Caliburn's power as he wasn't the true wielder - just the owner. Saber as the true wielder could unleash it's power to break Berserker's weapon and pierce him. Also she had greater physical strength than Shirou - meaning the usage of maryoku. Also I took it that Berserker was blown up from inside by Caliburn's power and not merely received a stab wound. Well that's the way I see it at least. It could also be that with that stab all the God Hand layers were pierced and he died because of that.
It's the overblown-wing-form K&B. Not your normal K&B. The rank should be about A; they are like Broken Phantasm. And it was direct hit.Xanathos wrote:Kansho and Bakuya aren't strong enough (C rank does not equal B rank.).No kills
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