Chaos Chaud wrote:
SolarAdept wrote:It's shown in every work of his. FSN Caster is the best example of this - she is from 2000 or so years in the past and her strength as a magus is on a completely different level from modern magi. I also read in some wiki that in the past, most magecraft was considered to be Magic - only to get kicked down into magecraft by science's advancement.
FSN Caster is a heroic spirit. Heroic spirits are in a level far superior too a normal human being so I think that doesn't really count (Compare Archer and his past self)... Also, you could say that in the past people lived in the age of gods, gods walked between people and directly interfered at destiny and gave them powers or people have to confront god-powered things. Don't forget that a lot of heroes in the past used to be half-god, half-demon, half-something-not-human. And if technology was the reason to magic's decrease, why there is a decrease in the number and quality of people that uses swords, bow, archers or even guns? They don't have anything to do with this magic vs science thing...
Is it possible for you to tell me fuyuki's source dor this article? I'd like to see it myself
Heroic spirit or not, the strength of Caster's magecraft is much stronger than current magecraft because of her knowledge of her time period's magic. It is because her magic is from the long ago and humans of today can't understand divine language. Even if the power of magic is decreased into magecraft in this time period, her power should be relatively the same as it was when she was alive since her magic is still as much of a mystery to the current timeline as it was a mystery to her timeline (since I doubt many people knew how to speak God's language, even in her time). But I believe that if Caster was summoned 1000 years in the future, her magic would actually be weaker than it is today because technology could have uncovered that particular mystery surrounding the language of Gods. But then again, this is all assuming that Caster's power levels change according to which timeline she is in, so my words can be a bucket of hogwash.
Your question is kinda confusing. Are you saying that swords and bows and such are forms of technology and the diminishing number of such weapons is an example of technology not being used? Are you asking why is there a decrease in the number of people who use primitive weapons or why is there a decrease in the usage of primitive weapons?
Either way, if you see swords, bows and other weapons as forms of technology, it would make sense that the usage of technological weapons would increase if technology is getting better. It would be natural that the majority of the world's population would stop using outdated weapons when they have a much better alternative, especially if the world's population is more inclined towards technology.
I like to think of magic and technology of the Nasuverse like this. The "mystery" of the world is conserved. Just like how energy is conserved. Magic and technology are byproducts of sentient beings, taking advantage of the "mystery" of the world. Without sentient beings, there is no magic or technology, since mystery relies on the perspective of the living things. When there is more mystery in nature and the world, the magic is stronger due to the nature of magic relying on mystery for strength and power. The less mystery there is, the stronger technology gets because of the humans who discover how to manipulate the uncovered mystery. However, that does not necessarily mean magic itself will get weaker if technology advances. It only depends on the certain mystery that a particular kind of magic was attached to. With the mystery dwindling, the comprehension grows; thus, resulting in humans understanding how to manipulate that topic, and this particular method of manipulation is called technology.
For example, if there was a magic that took advantage of gravity, the magic would be very powerful; especially if only a few people know of it. It does not necessarily mean that the magic users know how gravity works, they just know how to manipulate it through magic. However, with the advancement in critical thinking and understanding of the world around them, people were starting to understand the mystery that was gravity. They understood that it was the attraction of two objects that causes gravity and not because God dictates that everything goes down because it is the way it is. So the mystery is diminished since the definition of mystery is something that is not understood. The knowledge of the inner workings of gravity caused that particular magic to get weaker, but people did not initially know everything there is to know about gravity in an instant. So the people gradually understood more and more about gravity, causing it to get weaker and weaker. However, that does not mean that the other magics will get weaker, for the mystery surrounding other magic is still not understood. So people are able to make things that take advantage of gravity (airplanes, guillotines, flying DeLoreans and hoverboards or anything of the sort). And that form of manipulation is technology.
So to conclude, Magic and Technology are forms of manipulation on the amount of mystery there is in the world. And since mystery is something that is relative to sentient beings, magic and technology cannot exist without sentient beings.
Although, most of this is just stuff I'm trying to piece together so don't take it too seriously.