Grinja wrote:I actually like the first two versions of Shirou better, but I seem to be in the minority. I don't understand why people criticize him because he picked up on Kiritsugu's dream and decided to follow it, nobody would follow another's dream unless they too believed in it. I don't think he was too spoiled, he had to deal with a lot in his life, if it wasn't for Taiga and Sakura he would be completely alone so I can't fault him for clinging to the few people he has and wanting to protect them.I liked HF Shirou too, until he stabbed Saber in the heart, and then I went 'meh'. Kind of spoiled the route for me.
Also, if you didn't like the route because you think he might have been able to save Saber, I'll add this as well:
Well, while it does SEEM like it could be done that way, I don't think its that simple.
When Saber was turned by the shadow she became a part of it in my opinion, so just using Rule Breaker would not have canceled the blackening effect, otherwise, she would have turned back when she died.
It wasn't just that Saber was "ooh evil dark saber" her alignment was changed as well, so she behaved differently, but similarly at the same time. With Rule Breaker, all you would have is a blackened Saber that isn't connected to Sakura anymore. And that would be....very dangerous, and a waste of a projection in my opinion.
Now what Shirou should have done when he found out about Zouken using crest worms on Sakura is try to use Rule Breaker on her. Hell, Archer should have spoken up, since I'm sure he had doubts on who the shadow was himself. A little brainstorming after getting Archer's arm would have solved some headaches. If after freeing her, the effect, taking away the shadow's ability to manifest itself at the moment, before reaching a certain stage, might "un-blacken" Saber and Berserker. Then, since we know that Sakura would have a huge amount of maryoku, we let her take in Saber, and Ilya gets back Berserker, we've got a new path after this that I'll have to think about. Although Kotomine might be awful pissed at this development.
Skip ahead a bit, then all we do is train Shirou to become an accomplished magus, and ten years later he offsets the "time-bomb" of Archer's arm, and there, we got a new ending.
It just makes the whole way it went down even more heartbreaking.