Mkilbride wrote:Comparing a 15 year old character to one just recently made...can't take much seriousness there.
Mkilbride wrote:Why did Shirou abandon his dream? YOU DID NOT READ HF.
I mean, I think it's stupid he did
Archer DID want to still kill Shirou, I.E "Now is not the time for personal grudges" despite hating Shirou, he knew he had to focus on the bigger picture(This was done in Fate also)
Illya was also just a daughter who never had a father and she was lonely, she was being forced to do it and didn't really care for it, but just a chance to meet the son of her "Semi-father"
Hi, I don't understand this position at all. If you read my responses I can't help but think that they are quite thorough.Mkilbride wrote:All in all, what most people are saying about your review is: It feels shallow. It feels like you wrote it, just because you could, and weren't inspired to. It lacks emotion, it's not something that gets a reader to keep reading. Some reviews of things are like that, or they're like yours, where the reader wants to stop a few sentences in because you have no imagination.
Hi matthewfarenheit, if you think my review was biased or uses misconceptions please please point them out. I wrote this review in a way that I thought was objective, though obviously backed by my own experience..... So you could be right, but I'm not seeing it.matthewfarenheit wrote:This is the opinion of someone that started his review full of bias and preconceptions
But this guy just grades it low for all the wrong reasons, going as far as calling deep characters "apathetic, cold, and ultimately robotic, unsympathetic, and unimportant", and the execution "lacking of any emotional climaxes but at the end of each route". Did you even play the game?
You know, I thought I was balanced and objective. Every time I criticized something I also threw in something positive. I fell short of calling the game good, but I said that it was engaging, shows a lot of potential, had good action, well crafted relationships, and lots of other things that I enjoyed about the game. It seems like you just want superlatives...wyldfire wrote:dude, i kinda feel like whatever u've written in that review should've been posted in the "what u didn't like abt FSN" thread...we already had a discussion like that...a review is something u write with an unbiased mind to guide or advise prospective buyers, not something u pour ur personal feelings in...
Miraploy wrote:You know, I thought I was balanced and objective. Every time I criticized something I also threw in something positive. I fell short of calling the game good, but I said that it was engaging, shows a lot of potential, had good action, well crafted relationships, and lots of other things that I enjoyed about the game. It seems like you just want superlatives...
Mkilbride wrote:Although, I love Fate Stay Night, I wil lsay something about the last comment. Just because a game is universally praised, doesn't make it true(Look at the Halo series...for a console shooter...it's good, but as an overall shooter...it's pretty mediocre)
Miraploy wrote:? The age of the character in question has nothing to do with it. All I'm saying is, while Kotomine is an interesting character, he's psycho in stock ways.
Miraploy wrote:Atriel wrote:Regarding Shirou's allies. Yes, you see that's called being smart. You can't do it alone, get together with someone that can't either. Even if only for a while. And that's precisely what happened, the only exception being Ilya & Rin. And their reasons are pretty clear.
Everything you say is completely accurate, the ways that Shirou makes friends is well explained and makes great sense in the context of the story. However, all of that takes away from potential drama and epicness. Was nobody else hoping for a showdown where Shirou is forced to kill Rin?
About the Rin picture, wow you guys are nitpicky. I used that picture because I didn't want to use an actual spoiler picture. I considered Rin's past tragic enough being Sakura's sister and all. What does it matter anyway? The picture was an accurate enough representation of the general situation. And you seem to think that a tragic backstory is a bad thing. Why? I was saying it as a compliment.
Miraploy wrote:Indeed, it is a new direction. Very different from the first two. But contradictory? Why? It states the truth behind the Holy Grail War. It is a contradiction only to what it was originally thought that the Holy Grail War was. Nothing more.
It didn't fit in the review to specifically say this, but the contradiction is in the characters. Why did Shirou abandon his Superhero dream? Why does Archer not want to kill Shirou anymore?
Miraploy wrote:Atriel wrote:So? You do remember who she is, and her reasons (in this case, lack of) to be in the war? The greedy ones are her ancestors, not her. She only did as she was told and actually ended up having a bond with Berserker.
That's absolutely right. But you're reinforcing my point that she wasn't greedy. I was trying to make a point on how unpassionate the contestants were and how easily they are sidetracked by things like friendship, and that's exactly the point you brought up.
Miraploy wrote:People from 1,000 years ago are not the same as the ones today.
Shirou wasn't exactly relaxing when fighting.
Neither was anyone that knew of their own weaknesses.
Like I said, there are some scenes that are really good. The Archer vs Shirou battle was one example. But there are many many other fights opponents face off as if they're dismissive of the engagement in general. For example Lancer, yes I know he had good reason, but his lack of enthusiasm waters down the emotional impact of the battle. Same cheese with the first battle between Rider and Saber, Saber and Assassin, Gilly vs anyone, Archer vs Caster. You're right that their attitudes make sense in the context of the story as it was presented, but it does not make for compelling drama nor does it make for characters we can easily identify with. Put another way, those fights lack the vicarious emotion we were expecting, and run opposite to my understanding of human nature.
Now about the sex, you know, I may simply have low standards on that. I didn't read those scenes carefully, but what I saw of the images on fast forward I found titillating enough. They might not be able to reach the standards that you set, but Saber/etc was certainly sexy enough for me.
Miraploy wrote:wyldfire wrote:dude, i can't simply believe it...abt illya and everything else has been said by others...but kotomine!!!u compare him to schneizel!!!i can't even find a word...in HF kotomine was greatly explained...that how his logic is completely opposite of normal humans...how he tries to find his purpose of existance and i shouldn't even have to say all this to someone who has read HF...i'd admit kotomine isn't explained until HF...but if u read HF and u still found no excellence in kototmine then i gotta say that u didn't understand anything at all ( and excuse me for personal attacks )...
It is indeed HF Kotomine that has the most similarities to Schneizel, while in Fate and UBW he has more of typical villain vibes, in HF he has the same sort of disgusting apathy to everything, or as you put it, logic completely opposite of normal humans, just like Schneizel.
Miraploy wrote:FSN is NOT TH...if u want a story like TH then why don't u go read it again...FSN has its own charms...every single little detail was explained and there was more than excellent character development...contrary to u, i WILL say FSN has a superb storyline and the plot was even more gracefully executed...
Hi, if you don't like my review I encourage you to write your own. Your review will take precedence if more people recommend yours.
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