Keeper of Gil's Vault wrote:Shourai, you still haven't convinced me though. According to the quote, when a true Heroic Spirit cannot be found, a Bourei is used to act as a substitute. This seems to be the basis of "amalgamated" heroic spirits such as True Assassin, where all the different masked individuals are the Hassan. However, this only indicates that the individual summoned is not the true hero, it does not dictate that the individual summoned is not a Heroic Spirit at all.
What I meant is that, each True Assassin summoned is still a Heroic Spirit, but just that he/she is not the true Hassan (the legend considers Hassan to be one person, which is not true). If this statement does not hold, then each individual assassin is not considered a Heroic Spirit, thus none of them are placed in the Throne of Heroes. Saying the individual assassins are just wandering wraiths does not make much sense to me.
But they ARE wraiths. Assassin is the only class which is composed of wraiths instead of true Eirei. True Heroic Spirits will NOT be summoned as someone else, or in this sense, as an actor to fill the role, as they already have their identities firmly rooted on the legend.
Fuyuki wrote:If a hero in a legend doesn't actually exist, then a wraith with similar abilities or one that shares the same general idea/concept/title is used as the basis for the heroic spirit or one of the many candidates for that heroic spirit.
Since all the 19 individuals who referred themselves as "Hassan-i-Sabbah"
have discarded their former identities as a human (and hero, in a sense) by adopting the name "Hassan",
they were no longer considered as Heroic Spirits. Or at least, genuine Heroic Spirits. They are now just "actors" who play the role of "Old Man of The Mountain".
In the case that there is no certain historical truth that a hero does exist in the past, there will be just "role" in the Throne of Heroes. And the person summoned to fill that "role" of Heroic Spirit is a wraith without identity, whose life was closest to or mostly resembled the "role" in question.