Watashimo wrote:Feelings are something completely different than a person's nature. Shirou's beliefs, way of life, and foundation are all based on the ideal of being a superhero. He was reborn into such a person when he was saved by Kiritsugu. Even though he loved Sakura, I don't see how he could so easily change himself. Such a change occurs over an extended period of time or in a traumatizing event that would shatter your foundations (something that would take a long while to recover from).
Kansho wrote:Well, probably Kinoko Nasu didn't wanted to wrote something really to that extent. His objective was to change Shirou, nothing more, nothing less.
And I didn't see how is really that hard to believe his change. It's a matter of "what is more important", simply that. For him, Sakura is more important, so that's all.
I wouldn't go to the extent to say that lacks some deepness, as the route is deep, extreme and sentimental enough. But it's a "convenient" story to show his change, that's true. But, well, it's kinda logical that ended that way, as that the story going to the extreme you present probably would never work to the public, as you need a hero and a heroine, after all.
Watashimo wrote:As I said before, what I hated the most was Shirou losing his memories, mainly because I consider memories precious. Even though the route had awesome fights, I just don't like it.
abscess wrote:Haahaha! It is true that it is sort of depressing, but it's intended to be that way. You can't say you hate the story itself just because of its nature.
Gunbladeuser wrote:Watashimo wrote:As I said before, what I hated the most was Shirou losing his memories, mainly because I consider memories precious. Even though the route had awesome fights, I just don't like it.
Shirou loses his memories? When was that?
Or do you mean that he couldn't remember certain things during the route when his body was being "destroyed" by Archer's arm?
Watashimo wrote:So I can't hate a person because of how they act? And I can't hate food because of how it tastes? Lol I understand that it was intended to be depressing, but that doesn't mean I can't dislike it. I did enjoy the fights and I liked learning more about the entire Holy Grail War,[...]
Watashimo wrote:[...] but I dislike the route because:
1. Shirou lost his memories - boo
Watashimo wrote:2. Sakura XD, sorry Sakura fans.
Watashimo wrote:3. I 3 annoying. blocks.
Watashimo wrote:4. See? Losing memories sucks. Oh yea. Cause its depressing.
Rikh wrote:however shiro is above them...
fighting to the point whereHis body was freaking being destroyed/repaired by swords, losing all his memories, unable to even SLEEP because he will mentally die without supreme concentration, Taking punches from the Chinese master martial artist of pwnsauce Kotomine, killing HERCULES, jumping out of 7 story buildings and surviving, Pwning KING ARTHUR AND EXCALIBUR, had sex at least 3 times over the course of three days, allowed a city to start dying, withdrew from a cursed ideal in 5 minutes when it took him in UBW several DAYS to have a strong opinion about it, let his arm get chopped off, got a toxin arm slashed on which kills him and causes him intolerable pain, got saber sucked away from him early on, and DESTROYED (Depending on route) A GRAND HOLY GRAIL
in the course of like 17 days? pretty GAR for shiro now...
anywho, those are my reasons for being more GAR for shiro than any others...
NonExistence wrote:abscess, too much info.
Kid-Wolf wrote:Really you sure it's not Sakura wanting to rape the living daylights out of him instead? *chuckles*
In any case technically he does do it with Rider, but more along the line on how Shiki did Len in his dream... more or less there.
Kid-Wolf wrote:Well as long as it's the mowan you love doing that then there's no problem in it though. *chuckles*
Well with what you've said now makes me wonder how did Rider project that dream then if it wasn't something that Len could do? I mean it looks like it's the same technique if you ask me, that's all.
Kansho wrote:Kid-Wolf wrote:Well as long as it's the mowan you love doing that then there's no problem in it though. *chuckles*
Well with what you've said now makes me wonder how did Rider project that dream then if it wasn't something that Len could do? I mean it looks like it's the same technique if you ask me, that's all.Self Sealing - Temple of Darkness
Breaker Gorgon is the anti-mystic eye mask that Rider wears. It is a bounded field not unlike the Temple of Blood which envelops the shapeless island, except the Temple of Darkness seals the world out. To lure a human in it lets the user suck his blood through his dreams the target's consciousness is sealed in the Gorgon's heart. The dream is a nightmare mixing pleasure and sometimes, sex. When Medusa becomes a monster and Perseus turns it against herself through Kibisis, her nightmare has her picked on by her sisters Sthenno and Euryale. A nightmare can be anything, but to her who would never see her sisters again, it wasn't a bad dream.
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