shadow_Hiei wrote: Message wrote:
Catastrophe wrote:the installer will be the same one used for UBW, just with the new patch data. .....right?
Of course. In fact, the v3 framework has undergone several additions and fixes since I created it for UBW/Utamono, so it'll be even better than it was back then. It will be very easy to upgrade the UBW installer to the current standard, mostly just a matter of diffing.
The F/sn installer is however a very complex script, so it'll take more than just a few minutes. Some functions will need to be recoded to match new game behaviour, also. All in all it's no more than 4 days work, so including unexpected problems it shouldn't take more than one or two weeks.
AlinSabel wrote:FSNv2.0 could be used to install Fate and UBW, or just patch a v1.0 install (possibly including fixes) [ofc, they probably just overwrote everything to do with the translation].
My guess: FSNv3.0 will be the 'complete' patch you are talking about.
Indeed. v3.0 will be the full translation of all three game routes, and will have the same applicability as v2.0: Install, reinstall/fix, upgrade/downgrade, patch CD and patch DVD modes. The voice patching mode will be extended to allow more RN source discs, but this I haven't investigated in detail yet.
Oh God. Revisions. That doesn't sound good.
Message, what's most important about the installer itself is getting a functional one that will allow people to enjoy the game as quickly as possible. I think that just about everybody will agree with me. Please get a functional patch that will just work to make HF run correctly out the door within a day or two of the beta testing being done and save the additional fancy shit that's going to take 2 months for a 2.0 patch to be released within the following months or something.
Or maybe MM can release the fully editted script and leave it to others to make an unofficial installer while we wait for yours.
Seriously, anon built a functional patch for UBW that most people on /jp/ were happy with within like a day.
Wahahahahahahaha. You mean that POS old as hell beta? That thing had so many bugs that I'm surprised people actually enjoyed it. Hmm, I still hold a grudge towards the leaker (yes, I know who it was and have known a day after the leak, but due to particular circumstances, I'm not allowed to say). As for the installer, I'm not going to boast or make any promises as to what it can and can't do, but I will say that it's practically complete. My advice is not to worry about the installer. Beta testing is going smoothly and voice insertion has started. btw, that "anon" who "built" a "functional" patch is a joke. But it didn't bother me that the patch leaked, I resented the fact that I was betrayed by a beta tester. To be back-stabbed by a person you trust is... well... let's just say he wouldn't want to run into me on the street. I laughed my ass off when the leak crashed on day 7-8 (yeah, I know that some people made a workaround, but I enjoyed watching "that guy" sweat). That itself proved to me that it was a verrrrrry ancient beta. If anyone played the leak and hasn't played the real patch, I'd recommend playing it because the leak is a joke. The script in it has crap all editing and even TakaJun was ashamed of it. All because of that bastard, the guy that TakaJun approved of and trusted...... That vermin...... I read his posts...... I had to pull all sorts of strings because of that guy...... I tested the installer continuously for a week before the leak too. All that work...... I might upload the spreadsheet later just for the heck of it (maybe, I'm pretty tired so I'm a little cranky). Well, if it gets leaked again, I'll know who did it now... hehehehehehehehehe... Anyway, everything is going smoothing and I foresee no complications in the future. All the Vista crap has been sorted out, so the main hurdle is gone. I think there are still some things that need to be looked at, but we'll check them out when we reach them. Currently we're in beta for the non-voiced script, and the beta for the voiced script is going to start soon (yeah, I can already hear some of you say "I don't care about the voice patch, just give me the non-voiced one". Well, I really want to say "TOUGH!!!", but I'm not a mean person by nature, so I'll just say it depends on how fast our testers are (yeah, yeah, I can hear the complaining about that one too, well, now is when I say "TOUGH!!!")). TakaJun wants to release it when the beta testing and editing is finished too, so we're still about a month away (no!!!, this is not some f**king promised date, okay!!!? This is just an extremely rough estimate!! (yeah, yeah, I can hear the complaints about this one too like "Oh, here we go. It won't be released in that time", then the rage happens on 4chan, etc, etc. That's why I said it's not a promised date and only an estimate. Well, we're not doing this for 4chan, we're doing this because we enjoy the games that we translate and want others who have the same interests to enjoy them too.) You know, I can see this post appearing on 4chan and all the people going "Oooh, look at the juicy e-drama~", well, enjoy. This is the post of a madman after all... I might even be completely wrong with all my assumptions on what people will think in regards to this post, but these are my current thoughts put into writing. Heh, well that's enough ranting for now. These forums really are a pleasant place to visit most of the time. Well, I'm bored now. Please feel free to ask me any questions (I'm probably going to regret this post tomorrow...).
P.S. ... Oh, I think I remember you. You were one of the 4channers that came to #mirrormoon when the leak e-drama started. Naughty naughty~