Fate/Stay Night ero removing patch

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Unread post by Kiraiya » March 25th, 2008, 2:22 am

Believe or not nasus erotic writing really really sucks(glad to have back up on this statement lol) All his meat references make me laugh so hard i forget im watching ero. But hey no ones forcing you to use this patch so i have no idea what the hell all your fuss is about shirou. You speak like cencoring something is a sin against humanity. Cencorship is annoying, especially when you live in America where free speech is cencored so much its ridiculous, but some people like it. The english patch itself is technically illegal as well so dont be a hypocrite and support work thats convenient for you and your morals.
Shirou wrote:then they don't really like FSN or Tsukihime.
i will quote this:

The stories, settings, character designs, etc. of Tsukihime and FSN were clearly designed with the porn in mind. The sex scenes don't just happen naturally, there are blatant plot devices designed specifically to enable the sex scenes.

FSN is not a ero game just because it have ero scenes.


Umm ok you contradicted yourself there. Stop flaming and go do something productive.
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Unread post by Chunky-MonkeyLOL » March 25th, 2008, 5:43 am

Yeah, seriously. I demand you bake us all cookies and then email them to us!
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Unread post by noradseven » March 25th, 2008, 6:11 am

yeah my friend has been waiting for this patch, not a big h-scene fan, and yeah, come on guys just censor out the real h-scenes don't try to go all PG on it, and the story is kinda gruesome and sad for kids anyways definatly intended for an older audience.
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Unread post by ayadew » March 25th, 2008, 7:43 am

Kiraiya wrote:Believe or not nasus erotic writing really really sucks(glad to have back up on this statement lol) All his meat references make me laugh so hard i forget im watching ero.
Meat :D
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Unread post by Maes » March 25th, 2008, 8:07 am

For some reason I can't stop laughing at that image. I think it's Sakura's shocked expression haha.

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Unread post by Chunky-MonkeyLOL » March 25th, 2008, 8:10 am

Honestly, the Japanese are just SO damn good at making adorable, cute, huggable, lovable characters. But they fucking blow old hairy ass when it comes to erotic literature.

I mean, when I read the scenes/dialog in eroge, doujins, and even hentai, it just...seriously fails. I'm either laughing my ass off at the stupidity, or my chubby is losing major weight due to the idiocy.

On the other hand, most of the sex scenes in the Romance Novels I read almost ALWAYS have me hard and KEEP me hard. Hell even erotic literature for the sole purpose of being erotic can get me hard. Of course all of these things are written by American/European authors.

tl;dr - Japan fails at erotic literature, US/EU wins at it
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Unread post by ayadew » March 25th, 2008, 9:43 am

Yes, quite and all the stupid reasons they have for it.
Tsukihime did try a little! More than most, but its still fucking silly..
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Unread post by DarkEyes » March 25th, 2008, 10:18 am

^ Lol, sad but true xDDD

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Unread post by Shikiller » March 25th, 2008, 2:23 pm

well, that shirou guy does have a point, all your talk about how much the ero scenes sucks and should or it's all right for them to be removed or altered by hacking the game, makes me think "isn't that insulting to Type-moon and Nasu Kinoko?"
And the only argument in this thread about why is okay to alter the game is "they suck" " " I want to read it with my little brother(LOL)"

i think that the patch itself is not censor, but the people using it are kinda "censoring" or being bad fans.
you like a book , you don't take out pages that you don't.
you like a song, you don't take out parts that you don't.
you like a movie , you don't take out parts that you don't.
and you get the idea.

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Unread post by ayadew » March 25th, 2008, 2:56 pm

Morals, taste, respect, all up to the individual to decide, there is nothing wrong with not liking parts of something.
Thus there is nothing wrong with having a choice of ignoring these parts.
Most ero scenes are so bad in these games that I simply fastforward them anyway, that's virtually the same as removing them, and I'm very much not alone in that.

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Unread post by lolipedofin » March 25th, 2008, 3:19 pm

Me myself, has no intention on using the patch and even wondering what's the point of the patch. Even without the ero, the PS2 game is still rated for 15+ with all the violence and gore both in text and image... Do you think there's a boy out there in the age range of 15-18 that never seen a naked woman before?? I was a curious perverted 12 years old brat when i watched my first porn 8) . Got tired of them now, though.

Well, there seems to be some adult here, that liked the game but prefer not to soil their eyes with Nasu writing on porn... i have a different opinion though, i think he brought porn writing to a new level and dimension, seriously, all written porn are hideous and not much of literature, but at least Nasu's one has some linguistic value to it :lol: . And much-much better compared to Utawarerumono, when i played it i was, "What? that's it? Was that a sex? poor playboy got premature ejaculation."

@Shirou, It's funny that you talk about respect while all you're doing is being disrespectful to people. Of course you're free to voice your opinion here, but we're all entitled to voice it with respect and concern for others... There's no absolute truth on this world, and so is your opinion. We all have the different opinion on things, that's how the world works, while discussion and respect toward others is how people worked the differences out. At least that's how civilized people do it. I have no desire to listen to a kid's rant.
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Unread post by Qu4Z » March 25th, 2008, 3:32 pm

Shikiller wrote:you like a book , you don't take out pages that you don't.
you like a song, you don't take out parts that you don't.
you like a movie , you don't take out parts that you don't.
and you get the idea.
I like an album, but I sometimes skip songs I don't like/am not in the mood for.
I'm a bad fan. ;_;

And Shirou, I hope to god you're trolling. If you are, well done, I approve :P
If you're not... Censorship:
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. "

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Unread post by Shikiller » March 25th, 2008, 4:00 pm

Qu4Z wrote:
Shikiller wrote:you like a book , you don't take out pages that you don't.
you like a song, you don't take out parts that you don't.
you like a movie , you don't take out parts that you don't.
and you get the idea.
I like an album, but I sometimes skip songs I don't like/am not in the mood for.
I'm a bad fan. ;_;

And Shirou, I hope to god you're trolling. If you are, well done, I approve :P
If you're not... Censorship:
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. "
you know what i talking about... you won't modify parts or lyrics of a song...


EDIT: oh i didn't read that with enough attention. I also skip songs that i don't like from an album, but trying to remove them is like going too far lol

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Unread post by Ciel » March 25th, 2008, 5:26 pm

And this is still like a way to skip them. using a patch?.xp3 file to remove the scenes is no different from having a playlist in your music player, with the stuff you don't like removed from it. It's not like he modifies the original game, only adds an external addon, "playlist" which everyone's free to set up to their liking. If it was forced on everyone with the HF route once completed, then I could understand some people's concerns, but it's not.

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Unread post by inferno_flamex » March 25th, 2008, 5:48 pm

Shikiller wrote:
Qu4Z wrote:
Shikiller wrote:you like a book , you don't take out pages that you don't.
you like a song, you don't take out parts that you don't.
you like a movie , you don't take out parts that you don't.
and you get the idea.
I like an album, but I sometimes skip songs I don't like/am not in the mood for.
I'm a bad fan. ;_;

And Shirou, I hope to god you're trolling. If you are, well done, I approve :P
If you're not... Censorship:
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. "
you know what i talking about... you won't modify parts or lyrics of a song...


EDIT: oh i didn't read that with enough attention. I also skip songs that i don't like from an album, but trying to remove them is like going too far lol
Ah.. I understand what you're trying to say, and im really glad that you're willing to discuss the matter. Rather than creating up a fuss... XDDD

However, when you think about it... They arnt really removing anything, are they?

I mean, the original files are already in the FSN japanese disc. When installed everything is transferred to the PC. But if you're someone who skips through all the ero scenes in FSN or Tsukihime. Wouldnt that also mean that you're 'removing' the scene as well, coz technically, you're not even gonna try reading it in the first place.

So if a patch exists that lets you skip all the ero scene, without having to press the CTRL button... like.. EVER again... Would'nt you think that it would be a time-saving solution?

Now take in mind that, the original game is still with you. Should you not like the patch, you can always re-install the game.

If you wanna think of it as an 'Album' speak... Then here's an example.

You bought all the Linkin Park CDs. After listening you realise that their new albulm, did not suit your taste... But you have grown to love their songs here and there...

~~So you decided to rip your fav LP songs into ur PC, and decided to burn it on a blank CD so u can play it in your car.

Is that considered 'removing' to you? Maybe yes, coz you pretty much made your own LP compilation with only the songs that you listen to. But yet, you still own the originals, so if you wanna experience them again, you'll have no problem doing so..


~~~~EDIT~~~~
Ciel wrote:And this is still like a way to skip them. using a patch?.xp3 file to remove the scenes is no different from having a playlist in your music player, with the stuff you don't like removed from it. It's not like he modifies the original game, only adds an external addon, "playlist" which everyone's free to set up to their liking. If it was forced on everyone with the HF route once completed, then I could understand some people's concerns, but it's not.
Garrgh!! Ciel beat me to it!!! :evil:

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Unread post by Shikiller » March 25th, 2008, 6:12 pm

Ciel wrote:And this is still like a way to skip them. using a patch?.xp3 file to remove the scenes is no different from having a playlist in your music player, with the stuff you don't like removed from it. It's not like he modifies the original game, only adds an external addon, "playlist" which everyone's free to set up to their liking. If it was forced on everyone with the HF route once completed, then I could understand some people's concerns, but it's not.
? there is no doubt that it modifies the game. and of course nobody is forcing anybody. it's just that using a way to alter the game at such an extent... to me at least seems disrespectful towards the work.

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Unread post by Enerccio » March 25th, 2008, 6:19 pm

Shikiller wrote:? there is no doubt that it modifies the game. and of course nobody is forcing anybody. it's just that using a way to alter the game at such an extent... to me at least seems disrespectful towards the work.
game is not modified in any way.
The interpret is the same as before
original files are intact
only there is one file added that has top priority over old files, so interpreter reads it before original files.
thats why its different than from editing the song and removing parts you don't like
here, you delete simple file to get it all back.

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Unread post by inferno_flamex » March 25th, 2008, 6:42 pm

Enerccio wrote:
Shikiller wrote:? there is no doubt that it modifies the game. and of course nobody is forcing anybody. it's just that using a way to alter the game at such an extent... to me at least seems disrespectful towards the work.
game is not modified in any way.
The interpret is the same as before
original files are intact
only there is one file added that has top priority over old files, so interpreter reads it before original files.
thats why its different than from editing the song and removing parts you don't like
here, you delete simple file to get it all back.
Its like creating a loophole that you can easilly pass by or make a stop in. And you can just as easilly remove that loop, as you did putting it in.
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Unread post by Shikiller » March 25th, 2008, 6:44 pm

inferno_flamex wrote:
Shikiller wrote:
Qu4Z wrote: I like an album, but I sometimes skip songs I don't like/am not in the mood for.
I'm a bad fan. ;_;

And Shirou, I hope to god you're trolling. If you are, well done, I approve :P
If you're not... Censorship:
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. "
you know what i talking about... you won't modify parts or lyrics of a song...


EDIT: oh i didn't read that with enough attention. I also skip songs that i don't like from an album, but trying to remove them is like going too far lol
Ah.. I understand what you're trying to say, and im really glad that you're willing to discuss the matter. Rather than creating up a fuss... XDDD

However, when you think about it... They arnt really removing anything, are they?

I mean, the original files are already in the FSN japanese disc. When installed everything is transferred to the PC. But if you're someone who skips through all the ero scenes in FSN or Tsukihime. Wouldnt that also mean that you're 'removing' the scene as well, coz technically, you're not even gonna try reading it in the first place.

So if a patch exists that lets you skip all the ero scene, without having to press the CTRL button... like.. EVER again... Would'nt you think that it would be a time-saving solution?

Now take in mind that, the original game is still with you. Should you not like the patch, you can always re-install the game.

If you wanna think of it as an 'Album' speak... Then here's an example.

You bought all the Linkin Park CDs. After listening you realise that their new albulm, did not suit your taste... But you have grown to love their songs here and there...

~~So you decided to rip your fav LP songs into ur PC, and decided to burn it on a blank CD so u can play it in your car.

Is that considered 'removing' to you? Maybe yes, coz you pretty much made your own LP compilation with only the songs that you listen to. But yet, you still own the originals, so if you wanna experience them again, you'll have no problem doing so..

oh. huge quote.
well maybe an album is not a good example,but an album or the music in it has other ways to be enjoyed, (mp3 players, CD players, you can burn some songs in in cd's, dvd's..) but this game has only a way to be experienced, so it is not the same.
i just find questionable why would anybody use a way to mofidy the game... didn't they know that they were downloading or buying an adult game with erotic content? even RN is not rated for all ages.

EDIT: Shit, all our responses and post are like out of order > >

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Unread post by Shikiller » March 25th, 2008, 6:57 pm

Enerccio wrote:
Shikiller wrote:? there is no doubt that it modifies the game. and of course nobody is forcing anybody. it's just that using a way to alter the game at such an extent... to me at least seems disrespectful towards the work.
game is not modified in any way.
The interpret is the same as before
original files are intact
only there is one file added that has top priority over old files, so interpreter reads it before original files.
thats why its different than from editing the song and removing parts you don't like
here, you delete simple file to get it all back.
explain to me how using something that deletes CG's from the Gallery and removes entire scenes from the game is not modifying it o.O. Sure , you can take it, but you are still doing it if you use it.

question : that patch removes the bath scene with saber? or the cg's? if yes: why =s? what's wrong with them?

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