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Unread postby ArthurPepper » March 28th, 2008, 5:24 pm

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ArthurPepper wrote:I was talking about the eroge removing patch for the PC Fate/stay night, my description is confusing?


Yes, a bit. "eroge removing patch" ?? What will you play then?? :?


Ofcourse I was talking about the ero-scenes, by the way I always refer this kind of game as visual-novel not eroge.
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Unread postby darugai » May 27th, 2008, 1:12 am

Is there any hope that a patch will arrive that could extract the scenes and extras from Realta Nua and replace them with the ero content or just add them to the PC version of the game?
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Unread postby Raitei » May 27th, 2008, 1:17 am

darugai wrote:Is there any hope that a patch will arrive that could extract the scenes and extras from Realta Nua and replace them with the ero content or just add them to the PC version of the game?
this has been asked before, and last time I saw, here's Message's advice : ask phiber. ;)
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Unread postby matthewfarenheit » January 19th, 2009, 5:10 pm

Is there any plans to extend this patch to Heaven's Feel? Or someone that already did it?

And for everyone out there, it's not just for the sake of "censoring the game". I have a little brother (13) that lives with my parents and likes F/SN as much as me, and I cannot give him an ero game with a clear consciense without a patch like this XD
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Unread postby Ailtin » January 19th, 2009, 8:16 pm

ArthurPepper wrote:
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ArthurPepper wrote:A non eroge patch wil help to popularize this kind of game.

I don?t care if the game is +18 or not.


ArthurPepper, maybe you should consider getting another browser =S
You have been double posting, triple posting posting in the wrong thread a lot.

As for the patch, this isn't Realta Nua is it? You desciption is kind of confusing.


Well, I am using Firefox...

And sometimes when I post appear "Debug Error"(?), and then I didn?t knew if I have posted or not

I was talking about the eroge removing patch for the PC Fate/stay night, my description is confusing?


Oh god. Dont cry just because there a some kind of these scenes. Just press Ctrl if you dont want to see it,dood.
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Unread postby Kid-Wolf » January 19th, 2009, 10:08 pm

Well Message did say he wanted to make a non-ero version of Fate anyways. Besides he might be working on it since it's nothing more then a side project anyways.
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Unread postby Rikh » January 19th, 2009, 10:49 pm

Kid-Wolf wrote:Well Message did say he wanted to make a non-ero version of Fate anyways. Besides he might be working on it since it's nothing more then a side project anyways.

well the fact that this thread isn't locked means its up for consideration ;)
I'm pretty sure we might see a non-ero patch sometime, it doesn't sound too far out of the possibilities
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Unread postby Kid-Wolf » January 20th, 2009, 5:06 am

Indeed. It only means that it is on probably Message's and maybe some of the other's todo list, but not way up there since there are some projects they are still working on of course. In any case I'm sure once the Tsukihime remake along with Witch on a Holy Night, and Girls Works may change the priority of this idea. Although the only thing that I can think of is once they make the announcemnt that they are finished, I'm sure a few more prople will see what the non ero version will look like in the end. Heck I'll probably check it out just to see how it works and feels of course.
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Unread postby HeartCard » January 23rd, 2009, 9:01 am

I am conflicted and border on hypocritzy however...

I feel it would be something like this by the time of the release(hopefully):
*1. Inclusion of Realta Nua CGs including the EPICNESS of a *Certain* final battle between *Certain* GAR'd out men which we were appearently JUKE'D out of originally...Despite it being the final battle of that route...Despite it also being the 2nd most GAR moment in the entire game. Also including Rin's Summoning CG from the prolouge. Making the scenes much better. 6lbs
2. Ability to share this with my lover without said person calling me up with a sudden "HOLY CRAP THERES PORN!" situation. 1lbs.
*3. Inclusion of Realta Nua-only soundtracks like "Sword of Promised Victory(**Saber Remix)" and "Mighty Wind". 5lbs.
*4. Seeing shirou pwnt by Piarrahs and dragons instead of failing at sex. 1lbs
5. Less Nasuspeak. The english translation is not as bad for the ero scenes, not even close, but it's still bad. It's like...Sex Scenes from a seven year old's perspective.
(Isn't there a time Shiki actually says "And her boobs...Boobs". Seriously...Nasuspeak...Harder than Japanese or Writting Chinese). 1lbs.


1. Severe GAR Downgrade - The Main Hero is still a virgin even after complishing manly man things. FAIL. 2lbs.
*2. Downgrades the level of Romance the characters have. "I LOVE YOU!" "OMG I LOVE YOU TOO!" "Okays that's far enough shirou. You love me, I get it." "._." 3lbs.
3. May encourage the removal of the ability to traumatize people who trust me to get their children PG13 content to read and enjoy. >: D 1lbs.
4. Alters from the original work. 1lbs.
*5. Overcensors some things. I'll explain this one further below. 3lbs.
6. Could end up with confusion amongst fans. "lol no. They never have sex." "They...do...in...that route..." "No. lol. I read it noob." "YOU GOT THE FORKING NON-ERO PATCH STFU THEY DO!!" 1lbs.
*7. Could lead to confusion to the read. "Let's have Sex" Next page: "Sorry I was so rough" leads to WTF!? in the reader's mind. Sure, some people don't want to read or see the ero seens, but you could atleast make what happens very clear. 2lbs
*8. Removal of (or atleast how much it makes sense) a few lulz scenes. "YOU IDIOT! PUTTING MY LIFE ON THE LINE IS WAY EASIER THAN HAVING SEX!!" or "We had sex right? Please don't get flustered by my sister touching your beastly naked body." "...bugger..." 3lbs.
*9. Removal of the Sex Song for F/SN. It has no use probably. AKA: "Our Time Together"(i think that's the name). Explained below. 1lbs


* : Up to the patch maker to decide if this happens or not.
Current Weight:
Pros: 2lbs Cons: 16lbs
The Cons outweigh the Pros currently.

Including all pros/cons possible:
Pros: 14lbs Cons: 16lbs

Best possible outcome
Pros: 14lbs Cons: 2lbs

Best EXPECTED outcome:
Pros: 12lbs(excludes 4)
Cons: 11lbs(Excludes 2,8,9) or 5lbs(Excludes 9)

Removal of all * pros/cons:
Pros: 2lbs
Cons: 2lbs


Note on 5: You said you would REMOVE the Saber-Bath scene. That's REALLY too much in my opinion. If you want, I can censor that image for you and put it in whateve format you want/need. Hell, I could do what Tenchi did for the hotsprings episode: They wear a towel into the bath. I could add that on to the image if you like.
As for the Caster/Saber seen: Leave it as-is. Honestly, I didn't realize it was implied rape until a few people told me. I just assumed it was torture due to Caster using her Reiju. Infact, I'm still sure that's what happened...
So what are you gonna do about the nude saber character? Oh, or is OKAY to be so hypocritical to block out frontal nudity but not back nudity. In that case, why don't you leave in the H-Scenes of Shirou giving Sakura doggy style? :o

Note on 9: I believe this song is used only during the sex scenes. And for those wishing to avoid such scenes, signals the start and end of the scenes.


By the way, Those were CLEAR hints.
So I please request that you:
1. Include the Realta Nua scenes
2. Include the Realta Nua songs
3. Don't OVERCENSOR with image removal. It's irritating. Just have someone *hint hint* edit the saber image to suitable levels. Seeing saber in a bath towel would keep the game with new material rather than just cutting things out.
4. If you're not going to include realta nua H-Alternate scenes, may I recommend something?
Imply the sex and such to keep the romance level. Just remove the scenes, block out those images from the gallery, and replace the sex-scene text with maybe something like
"And I made love to Sakura all night until our bodies were exhausted."
instead of "Sakura...Would you like me to" BAM MORNING!!!!

If you need help deciding what would sound best to replace each scene with? ask.
For example, make a new topic for "H-Scene Text Alternate". Bring up each H-Scene numbers with a brief description of the situations ex:

1. Fate Route - Saber+Rin+Shirou: After Rin explains what shirou has to do, maybe the following text is
"Saber complys willing, and I...
have sex with Saber.
I justify it that it was to save Saber, to keep her alive with Mana.
But I just wanted her."
And then changes to the "k, done. Shirou, GTFO we has girltime."

4. Heaven's Feel Route - Rider+Shirou.
"I awake from my dream.
And I realize I dreamt about Tohsaka and I...
Gah! Musn't think of it!"


And the forum would reply back with what they thought would be a better replacement(excluding the troll would will type out the actual text of the scene from the game. lol).
After people vote on whose reply fits best, that alternative text is used.


Alot of the current cons I see you can fix, and alot of the pros I see you would have to implement.

I don't shun the idea, per say, but I certainly won't support it without ATLEAST Realta Nua CG implementation.
If such happens, you have my support. Come to me with (literally) any problem you may have.

EDIT: Fixed spoilers. But click them anyways.
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Unread postby Kid-Wolf » January 23rd, 2009, 1:19 pm

@heartcard: Say that's a pretty long list on weighing the pros and cons there, but where you trying to use the spoiler mask for most of that, or what?

In any case the non ero version would take some of the the Relta Nua script for certain scenes in the end. So yeah Shirou still ends up as a virgin though, but sometimes I would think that's forthe best depening on which route you're in though. Also, some people here are over 18 and would like ot see a non ero patch so that they could play in out in the open without worrying, "Oh God is there going to be an ero scene comming up, and there are people around, but I want to keep going," or something like that.
- Finding my way through this garden is rather unbearable, but if it is to keep the one I adore company I will endure it for her sake, and her sake alone.
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Unread postby that one guy » January 23rd, 2009, 3:42 pm

I just kinda want this so my little brothers can play through so they can understand what the fudge I'm talking about.
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Unread postby Atriel » January 23rd, 2009, 4:49 pm

They are going to see porn one way or another. They probably do it already.

And.-

2. Ability to share this with my lover without said person calling me up with a sudden "HOLY CRAP THERES PORN!"


Quite immature ain't that?


Not trying to troll here, but there are some crappy reasons.

But yeah, an ero-removing patch ain't bad. Not that i would use it anyway.

Wouldn't it be easier to just put an option. When an ero scene is starting you get something like: "The characters will now proceed to know each other better via a wrestling match. Do you want to watch and read? Y/N"

That way, your little brother will click Yes and accept his pervertedness. You can't get blamed by that. :o
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Unread postby that one guy » January 23rd, 2009, 6:12 pm

Atriel wrote:They are going to see porn one way or another. They probably do it already.


He's nine. My thirteen year old brother, that's a whole different story. If I wasn't positive he'd get caught by my parents, I'd let him go through Fate.
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Unread postby Kid-Wolf » January 23rd, 2009, 8:56 pm

Safe bet would be to tell him to do UBW first since it explains most of the things that were left out in the anime. Not only that, but he'll probablly be stunned to see who GARcher really is as well. Besides
there isn't much of a ero scene except near the very end, but it's kind of short if you ask me.
- Finding my way through this garden is rather unbearable, but if it is to keep the one I adore company I will endure it for her sake, and her sake alone.
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Unread postby HeartCard » January 24th, 2009, 10:45 am

P.S. : Anyone wanna esplain to me how why my spoilers never seem to work in these forums, while others do?
I've tried [spoiler=?][/spoiler] and [spoil=?][/spoil]. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Last time it worked was with [spoil].


Atriel: I didn't say it was mature. But I imagine such a topic would occur.
Plus, my boyfriend is trying to avoid ALL sexual temptations besides me. Original I was included, but rape fixes many things. *Nods*


The way I see it:


1. Additional Flavouring:
If you adding ATLEAST the Realta Nua Scenes, it would improve the game by QUITE a bit. More unique scenes=better.
If you added the music, that gives the scenes more individual appeal.

If I had to choose one over the other? I don't know anyone who would not both choose and appreciate the patch from
having the Realta Nua CGs.

2. Overdoing it:
I won't point out all the scenes where nudity is shown besides the H-scenes, if only to screw the point of this patch up if you won't heed my advice,
however I think taking OUT the scenes is a downgrade to the experience of the reader.
EDITING them would be more appropriate.
The SaberINDABATH seen is a prime example. That scene really does not do nearly as well if you cut out the image of her in the bath.
She does not have to be nude for the scene to retain it's glory.

I will personally edit the images for you to implement into the patch to be "Kiddie Safe". In the Saber scene, the best alternative would
be to edit a Towel on Saber.
It's not that uncommon for people to wear a towel into a hot bath. Plus it would make sense with the whole WhoSaberWasBefore plot.
It would make sense she would wear a towel into the bath.

In other such scenes I will not yet mention, I could alter them to be in the same manner. To be Appropriate to the Story/etc while remaining Kiddie-Safe.

3. Sex scenes.
Currently, they're removed to my knowledge. There are two better and more sensible options in my opinion:

A. Use the Realta Nua Scenes instead. Far more effective and readable than "TAKE ME YOU SEXY-" "Good morning, Sempai."
B. Remove the CGs, and reprise the entire sex-scene text to a simple paragraph stating as loosely as possible
"I boned the girl of this route. GG reader narb." as I stated in my last post.


4. Final Word
I won't use this patch unless the Realta Nua CGs or Soundtrack are added.
But if you need help editing the images, I'll...do it...
If only for those who will be forced to use this patch.
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Unread postby Xamdou » January 24th, 2009, 11:50 am

HeartCard wrote:P.S. : Anyone wanna esplain to me how why my spoilers never seem to work in these forums, while others do?
I've tried [spoiler=?][/spoiler] and [spoil=?][/spoil]. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Last time it worked was with [spoil].

Just use [spoil] since i don't think theres any other spoiler tag command beside that in this forum
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Unread postby HeartCard » January 24th, 2009, 9:21 pm



Does not work for me for some reason.

But knowing my luck...It'll work, just this ONE TIME to prove me wrong.

EDIT: FGSDGS!!!!!
I hate being right.

The problem was I'm used to it having =? feature. Where you type [spoil=?] and whatever is in place of ? is the name of the button instead of "View Spoiler".
I FIX'D ET!!
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Unread postby Atriel » January 24th, 2009, 11:23 pm

^Uh... how come you didn't try the Spoiler Tag button :P?

Plus, my boyfriend is trying to avoid ALL sexual temptations besides me.


It's just porn <_<. Well, to each his own. Good luck with that, he'll need it.

Original I was included, but rape fixes many things. *Nods*


Wut?

Kid-Wolf wrote:Safe bet would be to tell him to do UBW first since it explains most of the things that were left out in the anime. Not only that, but he'll probablly be stunned to see who GARcher really is as well. Besides
there isn't much of a ero scene except near the very end, but it's kind of short if you ask me.


I wouldn't recommend that, the fact that it starts with Fate and then proceeds to the other routes is what makes Shirou grow. Even if you watch the anime. I mean, he grows anyway but it looks better (for the lack of a better way to say it) in that order.
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Unread postby HeartCard » January 25th, 2009, 9:56 am

This is aside from the fact that you don't need to have played the UBW route to figure out who Garcher is in the Anime.
There is a large number of hints more than enough to figure it out.
Rin's pendant at the end of episode 14, The fact they both using tracing magic and that shirou ended up borrowing his swords, the whole "Master must have some connection to the servant to summon that servant" since clearly archer is not very alike to Rin at all. And the whole VERY CONVIENT "I'm the only servant who forgot my past". Not to mention the scenes during the zerk fight where he proceeds to say "Heh, I thought I lost that" refering AFTER images of shirou flash through his mind.
I would have thought The anime would have been a spoiler enough for who he really is.

Enough ranting.

I want the creator of the patch to comment on my statements. Nao.
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Unread postby Selaphiel » January 25th, 2009, 11:09 pm

I just have a question.

I noticed the Read Me states the patch is for Fate and UBW... So, does that mean that it doesn't remove ero scenes from Heaven's Feel? Just want a heads up so I'm not assuming that path is clean with this patch then WHAM, porn.
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