So who is the Kagetsu Tohya villain, anyway? *spoilers*

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So who is the Kagetsu Tohya villain, anyway? *spoilers*

Unread postby rubberchicken » September 18th, 2007, 11:32 am

...As in, the guy who kills Nanaya and then torments Shiki for the last part of the game.

Some of the dialogue made me think he was supposed to be a nightmare version of Makihisa Tohno, but my gut tells me I'm probably wrong about that one.
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Unread postby Sobzob » September 18th, 2007, 12:15 pm

Kouma Kishima, you will get to know him in one of the side stories.
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Re: So who is the Kagetsu Tohya villain, anyway? *spoilers*

Unread postby idontknoW » September 18th, 2007, 12:26 pm

rubberchicken wrote: he was supposed to be a nightmare version of Makihisa Tohno


lol now that's one way of thinking it.. hahaha

anyway, yeah. that guy is Kouma. plus, the side story he's in is
Red Demon God,.. or something like that.
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Unread postby Eriol-kun » September 19th, 2007, 1:02 am

You could say the enemy is

Death itself, Kouma being a sort of personification of it. You'll probably learn about what I'm talking about if you play enough.
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Unread postby serialies » November 13th, 2007, 4:51 pm

hmm from what i can gather hes
a demon peak in the hybrid bloodline of a branch of the tohno family, and kiri sensed how strong he was but didnt like unessecery death so didnt kill him, only stabbed out one of his eyes as a reflexive action, and as a result it caused him to fux up the assassination which lead to tohno family pwning the nanaya family with koumas help

but i still dont understand 1. how shiki would even know about kouma
2.
why kiri didnt just stab out his other eye >_>

3.
what happens to him after the nanaya massacre
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Unread postby aldeayeah » November 13th, 2007, 5:45 pm

Answers!

1. Shiki was the only surviving witness of the Nanaya massacre and he saw Kouma killing his mother and everyone else.
Shiki is the little boy Kouma talks to in the end of Red Demon God.
Kouma is the monster (Crimson Red Vermillion) that appears in Shiki's dreams in Kohaku's route.
Actually, Kouma is the first character that appears in Tsukihime other than Shiki, because he appears in the opening scene too.

2. You mean when Kouma was a child or in their final showdown?
When he met Kouma as a child, Kiri wasn't in his right state of mind, he didn't even know why he had crushed his eye.
When Kouma became an adult, his eye would probably have the same fiendish invulnerability as the rest of his body.

3. He lived in the Tohno mansion for a while. He was kicked out by Akiha a short time before the beginning of Tsukihime.
Other than that, I don't know.
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Unread postby serialies » November 14th, 2007, 9:43 am

he appears in the opening scene? where =[
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Unread postby Sobzob » November 14th, 2007, 2:30 pm

serialies wrote:he appears in the opening scene? where =[


The one killing Shiki's mother in Tsukihime's prologue.
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