Shiki's Eyes of Death Perception

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Unread post by Einherjar » December 6th, 2007, 11:32 pm

serious8 wrote:AAAA.
I thought you were talking about Arcuried's route (I was playing it as I wrote the comment).
but I recall the same thing in Arcuried's route
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he says :
" I see the lines. My glasses. I need to put them on otherwise... I have them already on"
or something like that.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I may be confusing the manga with the game.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am searching for it right now to prove if I am wrong.
OMG please put on the spoilers properly! Anyways, I don't think it happened in the game, but the manga instead.

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Unread post by serialies » December 7th, 2007, 2:09 am

nah it did happen in the game... i remember it
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Unread post by serious8 » December 7th, 2007, 12:12 pm

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Unread post by Einherjar » December 7th, 2007, 12:48 pm

serialies wrote:nah it did happen in the game... i remember it
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Let me make it clear:
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Unread post by serious8 » December 7th, 2007, 2:47 pm

Yes
he is right
It happened but in the manga, not in the game.
I have already found the spot and Shiki didn't say anything like that.
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Unread post by Nestor » December 14th, 2007, 5:28 am

For forcing himself to see the death of the Earth
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This reminds me of
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somewhat esoteric, but it fits with that ideology of shiki quite nicely.

edit:
Shiki's eyes aren't as powerful as an entire planet.
There was a doujin where Shiki had been told never to look up at the sky without his glasses, and of course, inevitably, he did, where he saw
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Unread post by Maes » December 14th, 2007, 4:10 pm

Nestor wrote:
Shiki's eyes aren't as powerful as an entire planet.
There was a doujin where Shiki had been told never to look up at the sky without his glasses, and of course, inevitably, he did, where he saw
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A doujin showing that doesn't mean anything.

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Unread post by Kansho » December 14th, 2007, 4:20 pm

If Shiki can kill Gaia... A LOT of Counter Forces would wipe him before he can do it. So for Shiki's own sake....
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Unread post by serialies » December 15th, 2007, 1:03 am

Nestor wrote:
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There was a doujin where Shiki had been told never to look up at the sky without his glasses, and of course, inevitably, he did, where he saw
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what Maes said - Doujin = fanwork = non canon
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Unread post by Nestor » December 19th, 2007, 8:08 pm

The point was not whether or not it's canon. You seem to have missed it, so I'll elaborate. His ability seems to scale to the situation at hand without a definitive limiter.
We clearly go from
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to
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and as obscure as
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to even something as over the top as
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There is no limitation on his ability that we've seen. He could cut the world in half, stab the Milky Way into submission from the comfort of his backyard, etc. Well, the only limitation we've seen is the headaches, but I'm sure you could just pop a couple vikes and call it good, keep on going.

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Unread post by -[J1N]- » December 20th, 2007, 12:02 am

Hmm, about the last one
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Unread post by serialies » December 20th, 2007, 2:49 pm

@nestor, firstly,
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secondly,
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thirdly
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Unread post by zweiterversuch » February 9th, 2008, 1:29 am

Hallo!
I have just thought:
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Unread post by serialies » February 9th, 2008, 2:16 am

zweiterversuch wrote:Hallo!
I have just thought:
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she got the eyes from the near death (i think?...all i can gather so far is that
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) but they are much stronger for her + easy to use because she has a
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Unread post by zweiterversuch » February 9th, 2008, 8:07 pm

serialies wrote:
zweiterversuch wrote:Hallo!
I have just thought:
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she got the eyes from the near death (i think?...all i can gather so far is that
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) but they are much stronger for her + easy to use because she has a
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ok
...
...
...
:shock:
>.>...=.= nee
All the ones who have the Eyes are called Shiki so what if Nanaya Shiki had the Stab-experience with Tohno Shiki as R Shiki had her " accident".
maybe is that the reason why all the three of them are connected to the Akasha but only one of them had a perfect synchronisation with it.
so :
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Unread post by serialies » February 10th, 2008, 1:29 am

zweiterversuch wrote:
ok
...
...
...
:shock:
>.>...=.= nee
All the ones who have the Eyes are called Shiki so what if Nanaya Shiki had the Stab-experience with Tohno Shiki as R Shiki had her " accident".
maybe is that the reason why all the three of them are connected to the Akasha but only one of them had a perfect synchronisation with it.
so :
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firstly, SHIKI doesnt have mystic eyes of death, just a fake crappy version of it due to his connection with shiki, he can only see lines on living things because he truly does not understand the nature of gaian death.

secondly the fact they are all called "shiki" is a deliberate "coincidence" by nasu, you dont have to be shiki to get the eyes (if that is what your trying to ask)

thirdly, R.shiki and shiki dont exist in the same time, or possibly they dont even exist in the same reality. there can only ever be one user of mystic eyes, they will never meet under canon.

fourthly, they both gained the same knowledge, the knowledge of how to see death using the eyes as a conduit. however R shiki
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Unread post by zweiterversuch » February 10th, 2008, 10:32 pm

serialies wrote:
zweiterversuch wrote:
ok
...
...
...
:shock:
>.>...=.= nee
All the ones who have the Eyes are called Shiki so what if Nanaya Shiki had the Stab-experience with Tohno Shiki as R Shiki had her " accident".
maybe is that the reason why all the three of them are connected to the Akasha but only one of them had a perfect synchronisation with it.
so :
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firstly, SHIKI doesnt have mystic eyes of death, just a fake crappy version of it due to his connection with shiki, he can only see lines on living things because he truly does not understand the nature of gaian death.

secondly the fact they are all called "shiki" is a deliberate "coincidence" by nasu, you dont have to be shiki to get the eyes (if that is what your trying to ask)

thirdly, R.shiki and shiki dont exist in the same time, or possibly they dont even exist in the same reality. there can only ever be one user of mystic $$e$yes, they will never meet under canon.

fourthly, they both gained the same knowledge, the knowledge of how to see death using the eyes as a conduit. however R shiki
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well you are right SHIKI didn't ever have the True eyes but a copy of a copy ( N Shiki's copy)

and all this is just a possibility.
that would be a reasonable link between the two universums, which are the same since Aoko's sister is there and is where Aoko stole the potion from.
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Unread post by serialies » February 11th, 2008, 1:22 am

zweiterversuch wrote:
well you are right SHIKI didn't ever have the True eyes but a copy of a copy ( N Shiki's copy)

and all this is just a possibility.
that would be a reasonable link between the two universums, which are the same since Aoko's sister is there and is where Aoko stole the potion from.
potion Glasses?
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Unread post by zweiterversuch » February 11th, 2008, 11:10 pm

serialies wrote:
zweiterversuch wrote:
well you are right SHIKI didn't ever have the True eyes but a copy of a copy ( N Shiki's copy)

and all this is just a possibility.
that would be a reasonable link between the two universums, which are the same since Aoko's sister is there and is where Aoko stole the potion from.
potion Glasses?
I am pretty sure she stole the potion against the Mystic eye from her and with it she made the glasses.

S: " Whoa, Incredible Sensei I can't see the Scribbles anymore."
A: Of course, I had quite a time stealing the Mystic eye killer from my sister to make this Aoko aozaki master piece"

see?

but well
Maybe Tohko is like Zelrecht in a different dimension that could explain it.
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Unread post by Mukuro » February 12th, 2008, 3:45 am

Uh, the mystic eye killer is the name of the glasses.

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