deathknight wrote:Yeah but I was wondering what Akiha's personal reaction would be if she were to become pregnant. Would she still goto school or marry her Niisan?
aldeayeah wrote:Not like Akiha cares too much about the rest of the family. I mean, she kicked them out of the house.
About the Tohno's relatives, I think the fact that Makihisa lied to them would be the least of their worries... because they know who Shiki really is. And they probably remember the Saeki case some years ago (see Red Demon God).
AKIHA: I'm gonna marry Shiki, so get me a new record for him.
RELATIVES: OMGWTFTHATBLOODYDEMONKILLER!?!? ARE YOU CRAZY? He'll kill you! He'll kill us! Get him away!
AKIHA *tsundere mode*: Ahhh, urusai!
I think the lack of good end has more to do with the fact that there's a "two persons, one life" situation.
As for Shiki, aside from his eyes, he isn't really that great of a threat to other supernatural beings. His eyes can see death, sure, but he still needs to reach his opponents with a knife in his hand. His Nanaya personality is quite an assassin, but he is still a human being. Added with the fact that Shiki really can't function for a long time with his glasses off, getting rid of Shiki would be a lot easier than Akiha.
deathknight wrote:I disagree Chas and this is why:The bonus Plus Period talk side story by Nasu where Shiki's eyes and killing skills have made him such a bad ass that Aozaki's mystic eyes killer glasses no longer work on him and he has to wear a blindfold instead. And this is the pussy whipped Tohno *I'm gonna faint* Shiki kicking that mage's ass without even his Nanaya persona present then and he still wiped out an entire forest with ease (looks like just a little time and experience works wonders for leveling up a demon killer). Plus if you played Melty Blood or React you may have noticed that Nanaya Shiki's Arc Drive and Super EX are one of if not the strongest finishing moves ever considering how it wipes the red bar clean. IMO Nanaya Shiki is the strongest fighter in Tsukihime and he could easily rape Ryogi and own Aoko without even messing up his hair...
deathknight wrote:You made some good points Chas but I think you got somethings mixed up:Ryogi Shiki's mystic eyes are not connected to the "Origin of all things" thats Nanaya Shiki's power. From what I read Ryogi's Shiki's mystic eyes are actually similar to True Shiki's mystic eyes in that she can only see death and not the existence it came from. Ryogi cannot see the death points she can only see lines and I think she can only see them on living creatures and not inanimate objects while Nanaya can see the death points of existence and lines and points on inanimate objects too. In fact in Tsukihime Nanaya/Tohno Shiki if he concentrated enough he can see the lines and death of the very air and ground. All it takes for Shiki to unlock his true potential against a target is understanding its concept and once he does that he can see its death easily.
But for canon we'll have to wait for Tsukihime 2 to check out just how strong Shiki truly is....
marus wrote:The Talk side story isn't considered canon, so it's unknown whether that's truly how Shiki will end up in the future. That version of Shiki might be able to evenly fight Aoko or Ryougi (I say might because we don't really know a lot about him), but our friendly neighborhood Shiki would get raped by the likes of them, unless he got a sneak attack or something. And you're giving Melty Blood too much credit, if the fighting system was truly based on the character's power then all of Arcueid's moves would be replaced with "Marble Phantasm insta-win drive X". I do agree though that the Tohno family would have problems dealing with Shiki, but for other reasons - mostly that no one in the family knows about his true powers and ancestry, while Shiki has access to a wealth of information about the rest of the family.
deathknight wrote:You never know but my money's on Shiki turning Ryogi (and hopefully Aoko) into his latest harem additions when he goes all tsundere on her ass.
potaatti wrote:Though I think that they should be able to take him out easily with conventional means, ie. putting a bomb on the route where he goes to school or sniping him or something like that.. Razz
marus wrote:Ryougi's already got it in for Mikiya and Shiki is too old for Aoko now.
potaatti wrote:mmm, Maybe, but he still has his uber danger awareness, so sneak attacks aren't always as effective on him. Besides, have you ever heard of a demon sniper?
deathknight wrote:Interesting Chas but...Like I said Ryogi cannot see death points she can only see lines so I doubt she would be able to kill Roa or something like a soul or wipe out a continent like Nero so easily like Nanaya did. Plus Tohno Shiki's Harem OWNS Ryogi's pitiful crew of Mikuto so really he has Arcuied, Ciel, Akiha, the maids and a bunch of other girls who seem to fall for his "I'm lonely and need love" female attraction powers like white on rice
You never know but my money's on Shiki turning Ryogi (and hopefully Aoko) into his latest harem additions when he goes all tsundere on her ass. Both those girls may be crazy killer badasses but Shiki outperforms them in bed no contest. Lets see them fight against his ecchi scenes!
Anyway I'm sure you heard theres a Kara no Kyokai movie coming out this year or next so lets let the movie finish the debate since I'm sure me and many fans consider that unimpeachable canon.
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