allanh wrote:another day, another route.
I just completed Ciel route today.
It is a pretty fun route and I kind of enjoyed it. Here are some of my random thoughts:
1. Tsukihime is definitely a parody to FSN (or vice versa). There are just too many similarities between this route to UBW in FSN, as in Arcueit/Fate. As in UBW, Shiki has to face his own darker inner self (Roa) and ultimately fight himself (stabbing himself in this case). And the Good Ending is always similar to UBW where all girls stayed with him
2. It is just so hilarious that Shiki has a "hard-on" for an entire day due to Roa's possession lol. And the only way to fix it was by Ciel giving him an oral..... rofl
3. Ciel is just so much cuter in this route than Arcuied's route. I wish I had a "senpai" like that in my school days.
4. Can someone explain the True Ending? I don't quite get it. Shiki's younger self told him in the dream that he would die if he woke up, right? But it seemed hat Shiki survived and was in Ciel's arms when he woke? So did he die in the end?
Finally, I must say that I have invested much less emotion after reading this route comparing to Arcueid's route. Overall, Arcueid just seemed to be a much more tragic character TT.
Mkilbride wrote:I liked Ciel alot, I think her and Arc have about the same emotional level investment. Maybe Ciel abit more. Also, how exactly is Arc more tragic? Sure, all of her race is dead(Slightly because of her lol), and she's doomed to walk forever killing Apostles. Sad, I'll admit.
Ciel: Killed her own family, friends, ectera. Raped day in and day out. Killed many times a day for years. Unable to die also. Ciel has alot more tragic things going on though...
Also, dude, this is yer problem with reading F/SN first. Yer comparing a work that produced long before Fate / Stay Night. Now the concept of Fate / Stay Night may be older, but only the concept, so Tsukihime really came first in that department.
I also don't like you calling the much darker, and more serious Tsukihime a "Parody"
Just wait till the last three routes. Tragedy has not even been show yet.
that one guy wrote:Ciel is great indeed.
The thing with Shiki/little Shiki was, as has been shown throughout the route, that the one with the stronger will to prevail will. This is just how it came to fruition. If Shiki was weak willed, he would have accepted the dream world and "lived" that lie, while his actual body died. But, because he was shown to have a strong will, he saw past the illusions and realized that it wouldn't be worth it to live the lie. So, he accepted that he was dead. However....well, it should make more sense pretty soon as to why he couldn't die.
Mkilbride wrote:Can edit posts, don't need to double lol.
Lol, she went out to rape others? Didn't read that too well, did ya? Anyone else want to explain to him where he's mixed that point up?:P It's because of ROA's influence that she had sex with those people, not by her will. "cf FSN"? Not sure what that means...but all the routes in Fate / Stay Night end pretty happily lol.(Even Fate, unless you don't understand how love works)
Minor Heroines? LOL. I have never heard them called that before. You'll totally be shocked and saddened. (Ahika's route alone is considered to be one of the most story-line filled of all the Routes, not minor at all!)
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