Give Tsukihime Characters Stat Sheets! [Lots of Spoilers]

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Unread postby xthr » November 26th, 2008, 7:09 am

I think Shiki's stats needs to be nerfed a bit, right now, he is stronger than servant archer (o_O?), and his mystic eye killers seem too ordinary to be EX. Like rider's gorgon breaker is only a rank D if I remember right.

Lol white len has two reality marbles? It seems like the nightmare thing should be more of a spell/skill based NP than a reality marble. From nasu's description of RMs, they extend the user's own soul, and is a representation of the caster's origin. I'm not sure WLen has two origins :\
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Unread postby metal_cocoabo » November 26th, 2008, 12:08 pm

xthr wrote:I think Shiki's stats needs to be nerfed a bit, right now, he is stronger than servant archer (o_O?), and his mystic eye killers seem too ordinary to be EX.


I agree. Tohno Shiki's MEoDP doesn't warrant an EX level -- compared to Ryougi's anyway. The NP should also mention that the MEoDP works at the cost of Shiki's health or something like that.
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Unread postby zweiterversuch » November 26th, 2008, 12:43 pm

xthr wrote:I think Shiki's stats needs to be nerfed a bit, right now, he is stronger than servant archer (o_O?), and his mystic eye killers seem too ordinary to be EX. Like rider's gorgon breaker is only a rank D if I remember right.

Lol white len has two reality marbles? It seems like the nightmare thing should be more of a spell/skill based NP than a reality marble. From nasu's description of RMs, they extend the user's own soul, and is a representation of the caster's origin. I'm not sure WLen has two origins :\



So Saccin's origin is to suck?....

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Unread postby Kid-Wolf » November 26th, 2008, 4:20 pm

Ok ok so I mistyped that one. I think the mirror one is either a reality marble, but it could just be a kind of marble phantasom though. So I could of messed up on that one.
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Unread postby negum » November 26th, 2008, 4:42 pm

zweiterversuch wrote:So Saccin's origin is to suck?....

That's so not ambiguous. :D
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Unread postby Kid-Wolf » November 26th, 2008, 5:00 pm

negum wrote:
zweiterversuch wrote:So Saccin's origin is to suck?....

That's so not ambiguous. :D


Well she is a female, and a vampire so that play on words could go in two driections there if you ask me.
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Unread postby negum » November 26th, 2008, 5:28 pm

Kid-Wolf wrote:
negum wrote:
zweiterversuch wrote:So Saccin's origin is to suck?....

That's so not ambiguous. :D


Well she is a female, and a vampire so that play on words could go in two driections there if you ask me.

:shock:
Well, I wasn't thinking about the female part.
It was more like she doesn't have a route and everyone teases her...she basically sucks at life *runs before Sacchin finds him* Not that I hate her.

Damn, that kind of backfired. Just forget what I said earlier. :D
Now back on topic...
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Unread postby Kid-Wolf » November 26th, 2008, 5:43 pm

I'm problabbly going to need help with this one to the point of where I don't know if this would be correct.

Miyako
Stats:

Strength: B+
Agility: B
Mana: D+
Luck: C+

Skills:
Fist fighter: A- Knows the basics and advanced moves in a certain fighting school
Agressive little sister: B+ Has the ability to back someone into a corner and be somewhat afraid for thier life. It still works even if the opponent does or doesn't have a sisicom.

Noble Pahntasm:

Bi Quan
Rank: C-
Range: Anti-personell

A secret fighting technique that was said to be lost to the ancients. How this little one obtained it is beyond anyone's comprehension. Although rumor has it that this is the fake version so it is one rank lower then the actual move itself.
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Unread postby zweiterversuch » November 26th, 2008, 6:34 pm

Ehhh...guys....

I think we are wrong.

We must agree on who is actually the strongetst and the weakest charachter. that way we will have a meassure. (Tell me if something from What I am saying makes any sense, please)

As Example we could say that:

ORT EXELS at all (EX ++)

and that Shinji sucks at al (Z --)
that way we can tell how strong is each character.
We could Use Numbers instead of letters. That way it becomes more specific when we are comparing Characters with almost the same stats. (For instance Bazzett and Ciel)

So.....
What do you think.
(Again: Tell me if you understood anything I said or if you just read a bunch of non-sense.)



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EDIT: WE could say something like:

Aoko

Strenght: 2/100 (Ort's) -Ort strenght being 100-

or (we should make classes for this one. For instance: Types, Dead Apostle, Human (normal, magus, Demon, Halfbreed. etc etc)

Aoko: Human. -Magus-

Strenght: 6/10 (+4 with magic enforcement.) -ten being Kouma's strenght.- 0 being Shinji's strenght.-
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Unread postby gexer64 » November 28th, 2008, 5:26 am

Are we comparing these to servants? If so these are WAAAAAAAAAY overpowered.

Serious Caster > Aoko

Aoko can still fight against average servants (Archer, Rider, and Assassin)

Ciel can fight defensively against a servant.

Akiha wouldn't be able to stand long at all.

Regular shiki doesn't have a chance (DA slayer might be in the Ciel range). In a fight with Shirou however, Nasu has said that Shiki would win.

Arc= 4 servants

Sacchin isn't placed on the list cuz she hasn't been seen in a route yet nor mentioned by nasu in fights. (poor sacchin)

I'm a little annoyed about how comparatively weak Tsukhime's cast is compared to fate.

Before I forget...

A Miyako > A Taiga.

Neko arc = 2 servants
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Unread postby NanatsuYa » November 28th, 2008, 1:36 pm

gexer64 wrote:Are we comparing these to servants? If so these are WAAAAAAAAAY overpowered.

Caster > Aoko

Ciel can fight defensively against a servant.

Akiha wouldn't be able to stand long at all.

Regular shiki doesn't have a chance (DA slayer might be in the Ciel range). In a fight with Shirou however, Nasu has said that Shiki would win.

Arc= 4 servants

Sacchin isn't placed on the list cuz she hasn't been seen in a route yet nor mentioned by nasu in fights. (poor sacchin)

I'm a little annoyed about how comparatively weak Tsukhime's cast is compared to fate.

Before I forget...

A Miyako > A Taiga.

Neko arc = 2 servants


How about Neco-Arc Chaos??? :lol:

And I wonder how Kiri Nanaya or Kouma would do against servants :?
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Unread postby gexer64 » November 28th, 2008, 2:28 pm

NanatsuYa wrote:
How about Neco-Arc Chaos??? :lol:

And I wonder how Kiri Nanaya or Kouma would do against servants :?


Kouma is in the Aoko class.
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Unread postby Jinnai » November 28th, 2008, 6:28 pm

this looks interesting as i had made a few characters like this, but unfortunately it was with BESM D20, so i can't help here. :(
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Unread postby Shikiller » November 29th, 2008, 2:40 am

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Unread postby gexer64 » November 29th, 2008, 4:50 am

Shikiller wrote:Image


Where did that image of Satsujinki come from?
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Unread postby NonExistence » November 29th, 2008, 5:42 am

... i thought everyone knew that image. it's an image from the tsukihime manga of nanaya (not satsujinki, who looks like the pic below).
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Unread postby gexer64 » November 29th, 2008, 5:47 am

I have not read the manga. And now I have to.
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Unread postby NonExistence » November 29th, 2008, 6:00 am

of course. it proves that not all remakes of tsukihime into other formats are utter failures. and it even includes
the rape scene (spoiler tagged for safety)
in all its glory. who could say no to that?
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Unread postby kaerstan01 » November 29th, 2008, 7:37 am

Shikiller wrote:Image

lol, hes only 169cm tall? :shock:


thought he'd be in the berserker class and not assassin

and yes, the manga pawns :evil: :evil: :twisted:
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Unread postby NanatsuYa » November 29th, 2008, 8:23 am

Yeah, the manga is pretty good, compared to "what-we-can't-call-an-anime-adaption-of-Tsukihime".
Hell, even
Akiha has her own faceoff with Ciel
and of course
the battle with Nrvnqsr in the manga is nice ("Kill x16" or something)
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