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Unread postby zweiterversuch » September 28th, 2008, 1:58 pm

Kansho wrote:The game will be probably Ero... Mahoyo is the one "non-ero".

And even so, Realta Nua had rape references and not Ero. So, that's not a problem.



Mahoyo?
Maho tsukai etc? or are you talking about something else? No ero...I thought I could see some Aoko...
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Unread postby nanaya_shinya » September 28th, 2008, 2:00 pm

Mahoyo is short for Mahoutsukai no Yoru. No ero for Aoko-sensei...
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Unread postby Kansho » September 28th, 2008, 2:14 pm

Mahoyo was written as a unreleased standard novel years ago, so "non-ero" => faithful to the original.
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Unread postby Ryanbomber » September 28th, 2008, 3:00 pm

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AlinSabel wrote:Exchange of bodily fluids can be via other methods, such as blood transfusion. Or even just saliva! >_>;;

Yeah, but it's said in numerous occasions that sexual intercourse, for some reason, is the best way to form a contract between a zynchronizer and someone else, and that's the reason why Kohaku and Akiha only had a "false contract", I think it's said that that is the reason why Akiha has tu suck Kohaku's blood periodically.

They say that because it's an excuse for a sex scene, not because there is some deeper meaning to it.

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But if you take all the ero out of the game, it'll sort of flatten Kohaku's story. I mean, Makahisa pretty much repeatedly raped Kohaku while she was a child, which leads to her wanting to take her revenge on the Tohno family (among other things). If you make it so that Makahisa only had to suck her blood every once in a while, then Kohaku's revenge doesn't sound as reasonable.

Solution:
1) Don't give Makahisa a reason for doing things to Kohaku. It will make him even creepier, which is always a plus.
2) Keep the fact that you can sycronize by any fluid and just change what fluid Shiki gets.

Bam.
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Unread postby Atriel » September 28th, 2008, 4:43 pm

Maybe i am the only one that doesn't want changes in the routes <_<
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Unread postby Kid-Wolf » September 28th, 2008, 5:55 pm

I'm guessing I'm one of the few that actually wants to see an actual Sacchin route here. Also, adding Len's entire sotry after the entire Tsukihime storyline is completed. Not only that, but to have some kind of bonus featurette like they did with the tiger stamps for Fate or something.

And finally changing Akiha's True Ending, with the possiblity of Hisui's Endings.
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Unread postby AddleBoy » September 28th, 2008, 6:02 pm

Kid-Wolf wrote:And finally changing Akiha's True Ending, with the possiblity of Hisui's Endings.

Why would you have them changed? I don't see a reason why they should be.
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Unread postby Kid-Wolf » September 28th, 2008, 6:04 pm

Well just Akiha's True ending since
Shiki dies in that one, or at least that how they kind of did it.


As for Hisui's Endings her True ending is kind of a depressing moment, but I guess it doesn't need to be changed much. As for her Good Ending
it makes me feel very sorry for Kohaku in the end.
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Unread postby Jedah » September 29th, 2008, 12:37 am

I cant see a Tsukihime remake being worth playing through again unless it contains Sacchin's route and more Aoko. While I am sure all the other plot changes would be nice those were the only two things that were missing from the original that made it feel incomplete.
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Unread postby Ryanbomber » September 29th, 2008, 1:35 am

You want the endings to be changed because they are depressing? Uhhh.

I wouldn't mind seeing some of the endings fleshed out a little (I'M LOOKING AT YOU ARCUEID GOOD) and maybe a second ending for Kohaku, but beyond that I don't really think they need to be changed.

(except Ciel Good. Seriously, what)

Also why is everyone saying "EVERY SIDE CHARACTER NEEDS A ROUTE." I'm half expecting someone to say "KOUMA ROUTE" or something.

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Unread postby Belzera » September 29th, 2008, 1:41 am

Ryanbomber wrote:You want the endings to be changed because they are depressing? Uhhh.

I wouldn't mind seeing some of the endings fleshed out a little (I'M LOOKING AT YOU ARCUEID GOOD) and maybe a second ending for Kohaku, but beyond that I don't really think they need to be changed.

(except Ciel Good. Seriously, what)

Also why is everyone saying "EVERY SIDE CHARACTER NEEDS A ROUTE." I'm half expecting someone to say "KOUMA ROUTE" or something.

oh god that's a bad mental image


[I'm guessing your the same RyanBomber from the BMW Forum]

Kuoma Route.... interesting..........

Sacchin deserves her route..... she has been the butt of our jokes too long.... so sad sacchin....

I'd love to see an expanded ending for Arc's Good, although Kohaku had a good ending I don't think she needs a second one.
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Unread postby Tash » September 29th, 2008, 2:41 am

Ryanbomber wrote:You want the endings to be changed because they are depressing? Uhhh.

I wouldn't mind seeing some of the endings fleshed out a little (I'M LOOKING AT YOU ARCUEID GOOD) and maybe a second ending for Kohaku, but beyond that I don't really think they need to be changed.

(except Ciel Good. Seriously, what)

Also why is everyone saying "EVERY SIDE CHARACTER NEEDS A ROUTE." I'm half expecting someone to say "KOUMA ROUTE" or something.

oh god that's a bad mental image

The Arimas need a route, too. They haven't gotten much development.
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Unread postby AddleBoy » September 29th, 2008, 3:31 am

Why don't we add an Arihiko route? Or a Girl-that-got-killed-in-the-park-by-Nero route while we're at it, too?
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Unread postby Atriel » September 29th, 2008, 3:46 am

Makihisa route? Anyone?

*Raises hand*

(He isn't really dead, so we can have a route.)





Edit: P.S. I'm not serious, he is dead. Still, there's necromancy.
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Unread postby AddleBoy » September 29th, 2008, 4:03 am

He isn't really dead?
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Unread postby nanaya_shinya » September 29th, 2008, 5:22 am

Girl-that-got-killed-in-the-park-by-Nero route??? I think she's in Kagetsu Tohya.
Shiki killed her in the end, and returned to Shiki's body. She's Nero's "familiar" that Arc put in Shiki after the battle with Nero.
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Unread postby Message » September 29th, 2008, 8:09 am

To help this discussion along a bit, here's a list of stuff we already have in Kagetsu Tohya and Plus+Disc:
  • Len route (Kagetsu Tohya's main story branch)
  • Makihisa and Kouma story (KT Red Demon God)
  • Arihiko and Nanako story (KT Nanako-chan SOS!)
  • Story about Arcueid's past (KT Crimson Moon)
  • Featurettes, loads of featurettes (Ciel-sensei's lessons, P+D Geccha, P+D Geccha 2, P+D Kinoko's Masterpiece Experimental Theatre, KT Good Luck Ciel Sensei!, KT Imo-girisou, KT Hisui-chan, Inversion Impulse!, KT The Tohnos' Con Game)
  • Stories about Akira (P+D Alliance of Illusionary Eyes, KT Passing by Quietly an Early Evening)
  • Story about Girl-that-got-killed-in-the-park-by-Nero (KT Dawn)


Kid-Wolf wrote:Well just Akiha's True ending since
Shiki dies in that one, or at least that how they kind of did it.

Actually, no. see Kagetsu Tohya.
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Unread postby Kid-Wolf » September 29th, 2008, 2:56 pm

Message wrote:
Kid-Wolf wrote:Well just Akiha's True ending since
Shiki dies in that one, or at least that how they kind of did it.

Actually, no. see Kagetsu Tohya.


But wasn't that a fix for her True Ending?


Oh yeah I forogt to mention this, since Ceil had that Good Ending I was wondering why didn't Kohaku & Hisui have thier own ending together.
I mean it could of been Kohaku's Good Ending. Although they did make up for that in Kagetsu Tohya as well, but it wasn't enough really since it felt like they resued a few CGs from the Tsukihime game there.
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Unread postby Message » September 29th, 2008, 5:39 pm

Kid-Wolf wrote:
But wasn't that a fix for her True Ending?

Well, yes. I thought that's what you were talking about. You said Akiha True ending.
KT explains that ending further.


What I want to see in Tsukihime Renewal is a script that isn't a ragtag pile of spaghetti code salad with tons of errors as dressing... I'd like to see if they bothered to remove s415, which literally leads into the main branch out of nowhere. :P
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Unread postby zweiterversuch » September 29th, 2008, 5:54 pm

Message wrote:What I want to see in Tsukihime Renewal is a script that isn't a ragtag pile of spaghetti code salad with tons of errors as dressing... I'd like to see if they bothered to remove s415, which literally leads into the main branch out of nowhere. :P



What is that spaghetti-salad stuff? s415?
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