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What are the different stats for?

Posted: July 4th, 2008, 7:13 pm
by Smobey
Attack, defense etc are obvious yeah, but what about agility and will? Does agility affect how fast can you act? How well can you dodge? Or often do you hit? All of them? None of them? And what does will do at all?

Posted: July 4th, 2008, 7:28 pm
by Phlebas
The main advantage of agility is that it determines the attack order (you can see that in small numbers at the start of turn). Pumping agi a few points at start and increasing it steadily pays off cuz you can always attack first with all chars, usually taking out a mob or two before their turn (and much more reliable healing). I think it also increases hit and dodge but that's harder to tell for sure.
And I haven't been able to come up with a clear numeric correlation but as far as I can tell Will increases your force regen (doesn't make a huge difference on first time early game, but it's a BITCH to fill 80 force on 2nd playthough with 1 will at start.) - if I'm wrong please correct me.

Posted: July 4th, 2008, 10:48 pm
by teiglin
my observations agree with what phlebas posted; I maxed out several of my characters' agility by the end and a ton of attacks seemed to miss them, in addition to always going first. Another good thing about having all your characters go first is that you can choose your combos with ease; when your characters' turns are non-consecutive you won't be able to execute combos at all. Nobody mentioned Life stat but maybe people assume that is obvious in that it increases health? I don't put much in it. :P

Regarding Will, I *think* Phlebas is right; the amount of force you recover seems related to how much damage you do and to your will in some unknown formula.

Posted: July 5th, 2008, 1:31 am
by TakaJun
Attack: Attack power (obviously)
Defence: Defence power (obviously)
Agility: Speed (how fast the character's turn comes) and accuracy
Life: HP increase rate (the higher it is, the more HP you gain when you level up)
Will: Force increase rate (the higher it is, the more Force you gain when you level up). Also determines force recovery rate.

You recover more force the more combo you do. My advice: Put Sheryl in your party. Her attacks do 5 hits.
When I played, I put most stuff into attack, agility, and will :D

Posted: July 5th, 2008, 1:49 am
by Comazon
I'm a little skeptical that damage is related to how much force you gain back, since my Mena has max will but only 1 point to attack (she deals 0-2 damage usually), but she doesn't have any issue gaining force. Maybe it's just because she has max will, I don't know....

Posted: July 5th, 2008, 1:55 am
by teiglin
Maybe the effect I'm seeing is actually related to TJ's comment about combos--if you gain more force by doing longer combos, it looks to me like the higher damage from the combo results in higher force gain but it's actually just the combo. I dunno for sure though. :)

Posted: July 5th, 2008, 2:10 am
by TakaJun
Damage has nothing to do with force recovery.

Combo has 2 effects.
-Recovers force
-Increases damage

Posted: July 5th, 2008, 7:42 am
by Phlebas
I thought Life works like that but wasn't entirely sure. It's an interesting point cuz it means you should pump it a bit at very start, later it's pretty useless (same as constitution in D&D, altho there you don't get that much chance to improve it later). You don't really level that much in the game after all, on my 2nd playthrough I was lvl 10 when i finished the 2nd mission, and lvl 19 when I cleared the game, 1st play I was more like lvl 15 when I finished the game.

Posted: July 5th, 2008, 8:10 pm
by Multi
How do you do the dual attacks? I thought it'd open up after getting the eroscenes or beating a girl's scenario but i got bupcis.

Posted: July 5th, 2008, 8:23 pm
by Phlebas
You need 80 force (max) on both Cliff and a girl.

Posted: July 5th, 2008, 8:27 pm
by Multi
lawl thanks. Is that all? the way the prologue made it sound was like, you had to be intimate with your partner for it to happen. how misleading.

Posted: July 5th, 2008, 8:32 pm
by Phlebas
There's a grain of truth, you'll have to keep them in your party to level them for 80 force, but that's about it.